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Perhimpunan ICERD 8 Dec 2018

Ratifikasi ICERD


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aku ni mempersoalkan kenyataan dia.menggugat melayu islam.katalah ICERD ni malaysia tandatangan,adakah orang melayu akan dinafikan hak untuk bersekolah,dinafikan hak untuk meniaga,dinafikan hak untuk masuk universiti,masjid2 akn ditutup,bazar ramadhan takkan dibenarkan bukak,azan tak dibenarkan berkumandang,raja dan sultan akan digulingkan.atau malaysia akn jadi mcm indonesia yang mengamalkan konsep pancasila

Hebat hujah ko bro.. ko pulak yakin ke semua tu boleh di amalkan lagi? Ko yakin ke sjkc/sjkt wujud lagi? Tak leh bagi pandangan dangkal gini bro.. kene kaji dulu ape kejadah ICERD ni.. kene dengo gak apa pandangan orang yang Arif perundangan .. paling kurang kene la pahamkan asas apa yang ditentang.. ko yakin ke keamanan Malaysia akan boleh dikekalkan kalau melayu hilang hak/raja raja melayu hilang hak/ agama Islam hilang kedudukan sebagai agama rasmi? Apa pun ikutlah kata hati masing masing.. aku memang menentang ICERD ni..
 
Hebat hujah ko bro.. ko pulak yakin ke semua tu boleh di amalkan lagi? Ko yakin ke sjkc/sjkt wujud lagi? Tak leh bagi pandangan dangkal gini bro.. kene kaji dulu ape kejadah ICERD ni.. kene dengo gak apa pandangan orang yang Arif perundangan .. paling kurang kene la pahamkan asas apa yang ditentang.. ko yakin ke keamanan Malaysia akan boleh dikekalkan kalau melayu hilang hak/raja raja melayu hilang hak/ agama Islam hilang kedudukan sebagai agama rasmi? Apa pun ikutlah kata hati masing masing.. aku memang menentang ICERD ni..

aku yg tak brapa paham undang2 ni bertanya.jd bro yg paham undang2 jelaskanlah
 
Ratifikasi ICERD tidak akan beri kesan kepada Artikel 153​

27 Oktober 2018

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P Waytha Moorthy. - Foto Bernama

KUALA LUMPUR - Ratifikasi Konvensyen Antarabangsa mengenai Penghapusan Segala Bentuk Diskriminasi Kaum tidak akan memberi kesan kepada Artikel 153 Perlembagaan Persekutuan, kata Menteri di Jabatan Perdana Menteri P. Waytha Moorthy.

Menteri yang bertanggungjawab mengenai perpaduan nasional dan kesejahteraan sosial itu berkata langkah kearah ratifikasi ICERD dengan tujuan menjadikan rekod hak asasi manusia negara dihormati dunia, adalah selaras dengan manifesto kerajaan Pakatan Harapan.

Dalam satu kenyataan hari ini beliau memberi jaminan bahawa kerajaan akan berbincang dengan semua pemegang taruh bagi mendapatkan pandangan mereka mengenai usaha meratifikasi ICERD.

"Kerajaan tidak tergesa-gesa untuk meratifikasi ICERD kerana ia mahu mendapatkan sebanyak mungkin maklum balas daripada semua pihak terlebih dahulu,” katanya dalam menafikan spekulasi bahawa langkah meratifikasi konvensyen itu bertujuan mencabar Artikel 153.

Artikel itu antaranya menyentuh kepada hak istimewa kaum Melayu dan Bumiputera dan kepentingan sah lain-lain komuniti.

"Dalam konteks di sini, kita boleh meratifikasi ICERD dengan beberapa reservasi. Kita boleh berbuat demikian sama ada dengan penerimaan terus atau ratifikasi, ada dua pilihan. Kita boleh pilih apa yang kita mahu. Dalam apa jua pilihan yang kita ambil, ia boleh dilakukan dengan beberapa reservasi,” kata Waytha Moorty.

"Selaras dengan komitmen kami terhadap Pertubuhan Bangsa-bangsa Bersatu (PBB) dan dalam meningkatkan lagi hak asasi manusia, adalah dinasihatkan supaya ia diratifikasi, tetapi dengan beberapa reservasi, dan memastikan Perlembagaan Persekutuan terus dijunjung dengan niat asal penggubalnya terpelihara,” jelasnya.

Beliau berkata “kebimbangan tidak berasas” mengakibatkan ramai yang membuat spekulasi kesan kepada ratifikasi ICERD

Beliau turut memberi jaminan bahawa institusi seperti Mara, dan lain-lain agensi yang ditubuhkan bagi tujuan meningkatkan taraf hidup komuniti bumiputera yang memerlukan, tidak akan terjejas dengan langkah meratifikasi ICERD.

"Kerajaan Pakatan Harapan komited untuk memelihara semua peruntukan yang terkandung dalam Perlembagaan Persekutuan. Perdana Menteri memberi jaminan bahawa kerajaan Pakatan Harapan akan mempertahankan agenda Bimiputera dan melindungi hak kaum Melayu sebagaimana yang ditetapkan oleh Perlembagaan Persekutuan,” katanya.

Waytha Moorthy pada 24 Oktober berkata kerajaan komited untuk meratifikasi enam triti hak asasi manusia termasuk ICERD pada suku pertama 2019. – Bernama

http://www.sinarharian.com.my/nasio...k-akan-beri-kesan-kepada-artikel-153-1.897378

dia kelingg blh la ckp xde kesan pada org melayu..
 
KUALA LUMPUR 27 Okt. - Menteri Belia dan Sukan, Syed Saddiq Syed Abdul Rahman menegaskan zaman ketuanan Melayu telah berakhir dan Malaysia bergerak ke arah fasa baharu yang memperjuangkan kesaksamaan.

Syed Saddiq yang juga Ketua Angkatan Bersatu Anak Muda (Armada) Bersatu berkata, perkara tersebut turut menjadi agenda yang akan diperjuangkan parti itu.


Org undi ko bukan pasal nak hak sama rata.. Org undi pasal ko janji nak bagi peluang pekerjaan dkt anak muda.. Menteri sampah..

ni menteri LGBT sekor mcm ******..
 
Zaman ketuanan Melayu telah berakhir - Syed Saddiq​

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SYED Saddiq Syed Abdul Rahman ketika berucap dalam Forum Ekonomi Belia 2018 di ibu pejabat Suruhanjaya Sekuriti Malaysia hari ini. - UTUSAN ONLINE

KUALA LUMPUR 27 Okt. - Menteri Belia dan Sukan, Syed Saddiq Syed Abdul Rahman menegaskan zaman ketuanan Melayu telah berakhir dan Malaysia bergerak ke arah fasa baharu yang memperjuangkan kesaksamaan.

Syed Saddiq yang juga Ketua Angkatan Bersatu Anak Muda (Armada) Bersatu berkata, perkara tersebut turut menjadi agenda yang akan diperjuangkan parti itu.

"Ini bukan lagi zaman ketuanan Melayu tetapi kita sudah masuk fasa baharu di mana kita bincangkan tentang kesaksamaan semua, bukan kesamarataan, tetapi kesaksamaan.

"Kita di zaman perkongsian kekayaan. Ini salah satu agenda yang akan parti saya ketengahkan dan perjuangkan," katanya ketika berucap pada Forum Ekonomi Belia 2018 di ibu pejabat Suruhanjaya Sekuriti Malaysia di sini hari ini. - UTUSAN ONLINE



http://www.utusan.com.my/berita/pol...an-melayu-telah-berakhir-syed-saddiq-1.776070

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yU_pe9_wkOA


Zaman ketuanan Melayu telah berakhir - Syed Saddiq

Utusan Online
Published on Oct 27, 2018


KUALA LUMPUR 27 Okt. - Menteri Belia dan Sukan, Syed Saddiq Syed Abdul Rahman menegaskan zaman ketuanan Melayu telah berakhir dan Malaysia bergerak ke arah fasa baharu yang memperjuangkan kesaksamaan.

Syed Saddiq yang juga Ketua Angkatan Bersatu Anak Muda (Armada) Bersatu berkata, perkara tersebut turut menjadi agenda yang akan diperjuangkan parti itu.

menteri bapok ni mmg cari pasal
 
aku yg tak brapa paham undang2 ni bertanya.jd bro yg paham undang2 jelaskanlah

Then elok lah kiranya bro selongkar bahan bacaan berkenaan ICERD sendiri. Kurang kurang boleh baca Yang cik mek kita post tu. Aku bukan pengamal undang undang mahu pun cikgu untuk jadi tenaga pengajar.. sebab tu aku tekan Kan kene Cari/selongkar/baca untuk Cari kefahaman.. selamat mencari ilmu bro..
 
bila timbul isu macam ni macai hanya mampu mendiamkan diri dalam tong taik..
 
Then elok lah kiranya bro selongkar bahan bacaan berkenaan ICERD sendiri. Kurang kurang boleh baca Yang cik mek kita post tu. Aku bukan pengamal undang undang mahu pun cikgu untuk jadi tenaga pengajar.. sebab tu aku tekan Kan kene Cari/selongkar/baca untuk Cari kefahaman.. selamat mencari ilmu bro..

pulak.
aku dah baca apa yg cek mek post kan.yg aku nak tau kenapa ada org kata klu ICERd ditandatangani kedudukan melayu dan bumiputera akan tergugat.seolah2 melayu akn hilang smua hak yang dinikmati selama ni.
 
Stop manipulating the facts on ICERD — MTEM, MLC & CLJ​

Published 3 days ago on 25 October 2018

OCTOBER 25 — We refer to a number of press reports by various groups trying to push for Malaysia’s ratification of the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination (ICERD), and condemn the manipulation of this issue using half truth and misleading statements, so as to disingenuously portray that ICERD’s ratification could be done without offending various constitutional provisions.

Before proceeding, we would like to first of all state clear of our stand that we are opposed to racial discrimination.

However, our forefathers in their infinite wisdom have made a number of limited exceptions in our constitution, as part and parcel of the social contract agreed upon in guaranteeing the positions of the native Malay-Muslims, and natives of Sabah and Sarawak, in exchange for the mass granting of citizenship to the non-natives, especially to the Chinese and Indians.

This exception is particularly evident in Article 153 of the Federal Constitution, whereupon the likes of Mara and MRSM, among others, were established, whilst also at the same time safeguarding the legitimate interests of other communities. As Malaysians, we need to respect this constitutional compromise.

Although these compromises made by our forefathers may be changed, the amendments must, however, be made through proper constitutional channels and means, so as to maintain harmony in our country.

We are appalled by how the facts surrounding ICERD have been manipulated, so as to mislead the general unsuspecting public, as if the ratification could be done by reserving certain provisions and as such purportedly would not run afoul of any constitutional provisions. In which regard, we wish to set the record straight as follows:

The restrictions imposed by ICERD are very wide, and directly contravenes our constitutional compromise. The definition of “racial discrimination” under the Convention is all encompassing, and could never by reconciled with Article 153 of our Federal Constitution. While there is indeed exception allowed to the definition of racial discrimination, but even then, Article 153 would not fall into such exception allowed under ICERD. In fact, the breadth and width with which the Convention covers would mean that even political parties like PPBM, Umno, MCA, MIC and ethnic based parties in Sabah and Sarawak would be deemed illegal.
Exception or Reservation to the Convention would go against the very substance of ICERD. If at all, we clearly need to make reservations not only on the definition as above, but five or six out of seven core provisions of ICERD. It is pertinent to point out that under the Vienna Convention on the Law of treaties, no reservation can be made if it is incompatible with the object and purpose of the treaty. Other states may also object to such major reservations. The reservation we need to make would thus be substantive, touching many core provisions of ICERD, contrary to the misleading claim that it is of a minor reservation. These reservations may further cause us embarrassment if they are objected to by other countries.



In order for Malaysia to ratify ICERD as it is would require us to amend Article 153 of our Federal Constitution. Such amendment would require the royal consent of the Council of Rulers (Majlis Raja-Raja).

It is unscrupulous to use ICERD as a backdoor to assert pressure and to amend Article 153 and the laws thereunder without proper public consultation with all stakeholders, in particular the Council of Rulers.

There are many institutions at stake here, from Mara, MRSM to UiTM, and extends even to the Royal Malay Regiment army unit, to name just a few, which would need to be abolished. Not to mention the fact that the Malay Reserve Land schemes under Article 89 of the Federal Constitution and various State Enactments would also need to be repealed.

A healthy and open debate should be pursued rather cursory dismissal of such views. The rakyat must be informed that ratification of ICERD, as it stands, would run contrary to the Constitution, and that Council of Rulers should be consulted before such ratification.

It is for this reason that we condemn press statements from various groups, giving false or misleading impression on the effect of the ratification. This is manipulative and utterly reprehensive.

When it comes to inter-racial relations, we should let our 60 over years track record as an independent nation speaks for itself. We need to nurture and shape national unity based on our own terms and constitutional constructs, rather than be confined to external pressures that may not be sensitive to our history, culture and constitutional compromise.

We believe that Malaysia have not signed ICERD all these years for various reasons, and it is certainly not due to racist or supremacist ideology, but rather for the sake of developing and uniting a diverse melting pot of culture in Malaysia.

* Joint statement by Ahmad Yazid Othman, CEO of Majlis Tindakan Ekonomi Melayu (MTEM); Lukman Sheriff Alias, founder of Malaysian Lawyers Circle (MLC); and Aidil Khalid, activist with Concerned Lawyers for Justice (CLJ)

https://www.hatred contents/s/1686429/stop-manipulating-the-facts-on-icerd-mtem-mlc-clj

pada pandangan mek klu kerajaan bersetuju tandatangan perjanjian ni adakah kerajaan akan didesak mengubah article 153?
 
lidah tu,cabang ker tidak...

nak test sapa pakar legal...
 
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