Perintah Allah supaya beriman kepada Pembawa Cerita & Kitab Hadis?

[jumatmajid]

dia yang buta tak tahu baca, aku pula yang SPIN..
nie baru orang cakap bod0h sombong.. hehe

HISTORY

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perangai macam seeal

selain drpd ad hanimun takder aper yg blh aku respon dlm post nko nih Pubin...

mmg nko adalah pendakwah Al-Quran yg sebenar, aku tabik kat nko...

teruskan...

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utk renungan kita semua dlm forum nih...

"Tidak ada sebarang perkataan yang dilafazkannya (atau perbuatan yang dilakukannya) melainkan ada di sisinya malaikat pengawas yang sentiasa sedia (menerima dan menulisnya)." , Qaff, 18

"Dan sederhanakanlah langkahmu semasa berjalan, juga rendahkanlah suaramu (semasa berkata-kata), sesungguhnya seburuk-buruk suara ialah suara keldai", Luqman, 19

 

[mohamedhidayat]

Saya sedang mengikuti perbincangan, perbahasan dan perdebatan anda semua di sini...teruskan!

 

[mosat_network]

SYAITAN itu mencari SAHABAT-SAHABATNYA dan ALLAH menjaga KEKASIH-KEKASIH-Nya
LAILAHAILLALLAH MUHAMMAD YA RASULALLAH

 

[zulpax]

Dasyatnya geng2 GAH ni spin.dalam forum je pung pang.ajak jumpa hilang )

 

[cheagil]

We Make Al-Quran Easy To Learn, Do you Not Wish To Learn
54:17/22/32/40

MASIH ADA org2 Islam yg taknak baca, lepas tu gi cari
kitab2 lain dan lebih percaya kitab lain dari Kitab yg Rasulullah bawak
bagi kat kita.

AKU MINDBLOWN.[/COLOR][/B]

how do we normally learn. you mean if 2a=4 therefore a=2, the simplest form of algebraic equation.... could be self learned? you know it by yourself? :-?

when we learn we need a teacher. what Allah says is Al-quran is easy to "learn". but does it mean that when we want to "learn" alquran we could merely do it ourselves? You must not confuse yourself with these two words "learn" and "read".

however, either you learn or read alquran both are considered good deeds. these were sayings of our prophet. oooops sorry you dont buy hadiths. may Allah enlighten you.

so my own conclusion here is that initially you need a teacher to teach you how to read alquran(who teach your teacher then?). and when you have advanced you still need a teacher to learn alquran in its fullest form and context(unless of course if you are a genius of sort by Allah's decree but i am sure you are not).

 

[Lime Juice]

how do we normally learn. you mean if 2a=4 therefore a=2, the simplest form of algebraic equation.... could be self learned? you know it by yourself? :-?

when we learn we need a teacher. what Allah says is Al-quran is easy to "learn". but does it mean that when we want to "learn" alquran we could merely do it ourselves? You must not confuse yourself with these two words "learn" and "read".

"This is no less than a Message to (all) the Worlds.
Al-Quran tidak lain hanyalah peringatan bagi penduduk seluruh alam.38:87

But it is nothing less than a Message to all the worlds.
Padahal Al-Quran itu tidak lain hanyalah peringatan bagi umat manusia seluruhnya.68:52

Verily this is no less than a Message to (all) the Worlds:
Al-Quran itu tidak lain hanyalah peringatan bagi seluruh penduduk alam:81:27

Do you have any difficulties to read. learn and understood those ayat?

If you do, AGREED you need a teacher badly
If you understand it perfectly, share your understanding those that underline.

however, either you learn or read alquran both are considered good deeds. these were sayings of our prophet. oooops sorry you dont buy hadiths. may Allah enlighten you.

whose words are those sayings of our prophet??
n where can you find those ayat again? opps sorry you dont buy AQ
may Allah increase you in knowledge.

so my own conclusion here is that initially you need a teacher to teach you how to read alquran(who teach your teacher then?). and when you have advanced you still need a teacher to learn alquran in its fullest form and context(unless of course if you are a genius of sort by Allah's decree but i am sure you are not).

your own conclusion is nothing
but conjecture: they do nothing but lie.6:116

otherwise, show us the ayat AGAIN ~X( that says we need teacher to understand HIS message.
thank you!

 

[cheagil]

otherwise, show us the ayat AGAIN ~X( that says we need teacher to understand HIS message.
thank you!

i dont believe it. you are willing to push your self esteem lowest to an incredibly non existent point by uttering the quoted words. it is as if you want every action normal human being do, be found in the quran. now i want to ask you, show me the ayat that required us to learn alif, ba ta and so on. this is of paramount importance since lacking knowledge in arabic alphabet would proof to be futile in your effort to read quran. AND YOU WANT ME TO SHOW THE AYATS THAT SAY WE NEED A TEACHER????
if that is the case...sorry i cant find one for you.

i simply ignored the other comments as i found that they were irrelevant. For god's sake, i am not here to dispute the words of Allah. and i refuse to be entrapped in your game with your own set of rules.

 

[Jess.Malik]

how do we normally learn. you mean if 2a=4 therefore a=2, the simplest form of algebraic equation.... could be self learned? you know it by yourself? :-?

when we learn we need a teacher. what Allah says is Al-quran is easy to "learn". but does it mean that when we want to "learn" alquran we could merely do it ourselves? You must not confuse yourself with these two words "learn" and "read".

however, either you learn or read alquran both are considered good deeds. these were sayings of our prophet. oooops sorry you dont buy hadiths. may Allah enlighten you.

so my own conclusion here is that initially you need a teacher to teach you how to read alquran(who teach your teacher then?). and when you have advanced you still need a teacher to learn alquran in its fullest form and context(unless of course if you are a genius of sort by Allah's decree but i am sure you are not).

kau punye explanation memang bagus..

bukan yang bold sahaja tapi secara keseluruhan.

 

[pubin]

mmg nko adalah pendakwah Al-Quran yg sebenar, aku tabik kat nko...

bila masa aku berdakwah?

tajuk thread pun....

Perintah Allah supaya beriman kepada Pembawa Cerita & Kitab Hadis?

ni tajuk yang mencabar "kepercayaan yang dipegang sejak lahir dalam keluarga Islam"...
untuk memastikan kembali betul ker tidak apa yang kita percaya selama ni..

 

[Jess.Malik]

how do we normally learn. you mean if 2a=4 therefore a=2, the simplest form of algebraic equation.... could be self learned? you know it by yourself? :-?

when we learn we need a teacher. what Allah says is Al-quran is easy to "learn". but does it mean that when we want to "learn" alquran we could merely do it ourselves? You must not confuse yourself with these two words "learn" and "read".

however, either you learn or read alquran both are considered good deeds. these were sayings of our prophet. oooops sorry you dont buy hadiths. may Allah enlighten you.

so my own conclusion here is that initially you need a teacher to teach you how to read alquran(who teach your teacher then?). and when you have advanced you still need a teacher to learn alquran in its fullest form and context(unless of course if you are a genius of sort by Allah's decree but i am sure you are not).

Terjemahan:


Bagaimana biasa kita belajar? Kalau 2a=4,maka "a" sepatutnya membawa nilai sama dengan 2, itu adalah perhitungan Algebra yang paling mudah. Adakah kamu dapat belajar dengan sendiri?

(Selalunya) Bila kita belajar, kita memerlukan seorang guru/cikgu. Apa yang Allah berfirman di Al-Quran adalah senang untuk "belajar"(berguru/belajar dengan Guru) tetapi itu bermaksud kita boleh belajar dengan diri sendiri?

Kamu sepatutnya tidak terkeliru antara perkataan "belajar"(learn) dan "baca"(read)

Namun begitu, sama ada kamu "belajar" atau "baca", kedua2nya adalah perbuatan yang baik - Ini adalah sabda Nabi Muhammad SAW...oooppps...Minta maaf, kau kan tak percaya kepada hadis? Moga Allah "enlighten"(kurnia kan nur/pemahaman/hidayah) kamu...

Jadi, kesimpulana saya di sini adalah pada mulanya kamu memerlukan seorang guru untuk belajar Al-Quran?(Siapa yang mengajar Guru kamu????) dan bila kamu maju, kamu masih memerlukan seorang Guru/Cikgu untuk belajar Al-Quran dengan sepenuhnya(fahaman yang betul) dan konteks yang betul(melainkan kamu ini seorang genius yang Allah sudah menentukan tetapi aku yakin kamu bukan)...