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[hani85]

Actually, those with professional experience and position, are more difficult to get a job than graduates or those whose experience and cert are simpler.. i see this pattern always.. it's because, big companies are reluctant to hire them coz if they hire them, they'd have to pay good salary.. and most big companies prefer to save their moolahs than spend it on new CEO/Manager/Executives, etc... this is the truth.. unless ur lucky enough to land on one, or if u have a cable inside the company, like friend introduces another friend... that's what happened to one of my good (guy) friends as well... and he's like, what.. maybe 45 above now.. luckily he's still single.. but in the end, he eventually got quite a decent job now, able to rent a room in Mont Kiara.. but while he was jobless, he had to work from home like design company's logo, and wash dishes in the restaurant... lucky for him, he's a tough guy.. #:-S

i think it depends on ur job too. say, if one is manager, especially those which is not involved in technical thing, its quite hard to find a job because the managerial position is not always there. but if one is technically expert, say, like pipeline inspector, i dont think things would turn out so hard for him/ her. technical expertise is one of the most available jobs out there i think. there is always job for technical people. the more experience is better because they want expertise in technical jobs especially in the big projects. and new projects always come in. somemore they can become sme. people would search for for them once they become sme.

have u seen any technical expert being jobless for a long period of time? i think its hard to find :-?

 

[AureLia]

i think it depends on ur job too. say, if one is manager, especially those which is not involved in technical thing, its quite hard to find a job because the managerial position is not always there. but if one is technically expert, say, like pipeline inspector, i dont think things would turn out so hard for him/ her. technical expertise is one of the most available jobs out there i think. there is always job for technical people. the more experience is better because they want expertise in technical jobs especially in the big projects. and new projects always come in. somemore they can become sme. people would search for for them once they become sme.

have u seen any technical expert being jobless for a long period of time? i think its hard to find :-?

Who says don't have? Gotttttttt... especially if the salary demand is too high.. i know ur trying to be positive, but i honestly advice u to keep an open mind.. there is NO guarantee that u'll get a job in the technical field EVEN if u have the expertise... i'm talking abt technical in general.. be it in mechanical engineering, technicians, engineers, etc... one of my nephews graduated from Poly but was not able to get a job in the related field, altho he did study SAP as well.. eventually, he got a job in animation.. he even got the chance to go to Korea (which i envy him ) last year i think.. all in all, i'm not saying u won't get a job, don't misunderstand me.. what i'm trying to say is, reality is harsh.. it's always better to keep an open mind, keep ur options open, and don't put up ur hopes too high... keep it realistic, so that u won't feel stressful and down when/if u don't get what u had been hoping for... just a friendly advice for u sis...

 

[hani85]

Who says don't have? Gotttttttt... especially if the salary demand is too high.. i know ur trying to be positive, but i honestly advice u to keep an open mind.. there is NO guarantee that u'll get a job in the technical field EVEN if u have the expertise... i'm talking abt technical in general.. be it in mechanical engineering, technicians, engineers, etc... one of my nephews graduated from Poly but was not able to get a job in the related field, altho he did study SAP as well.. eventually, he got a job in animation.. he even got the chance to go to Korea (which i envy him ) last year i think.. all in all, i'm not saying u won't get a job, don't misunderstand me.. what i'm trying to say is, reality is harsh.. it's always better to keep an open mind, keep ur options open, and don't put up ur hopes too high... keep it realistic, so that u won't feel stressful and down when/if u don't get what u had been hoping for... just a friendly advice for u sis...

of course i wont pit too much expectation. but i think we can expect something out of from our effort right. and the expectation should be realistic though i have a fren who got a job as sap consultant being as a fresh grad without any significant training or cert, only a training from mdec. it happen just the middle of this year. for my case i joined two training, plus i have a sap cert. so think its realistic to get a higher hope with things i got, if i dont get something as equal as her i just except it. maybe the employers just stu.pid or there is no projects coming in or that girl is just someone having a rare lucky charm that one in a million people would have :">. am a firm believer that everything we work for would fruit something at the end.

anyway, bout that cathy product, apparently it doesnt work for me. #:-S though i spent 120 on all 4 products, feels like a waste, but i think at least i know that the product is not that good. so am still a fan of etude house. i think i ll stick with it forever. but just for a credit, the magic cream cathy does make my skin look more flawless when i put it on. pore shrinked, n my skin look smoother n softer. even i took it off the skin still look better too. the problem is, it does encourage the appearance of the tiny bumps which i hate so much. n there are some ingredients which i dont like, which is paraben, cuz i think paraben does inhibit few bad things for my skin.

so the journey goes on.... #:-S

 

[Cameo]

a best friend of mine broke up. and she cried almost every day.

i just don't know what to say, though i had that experience before.

if it is not meant to be, why sulk? i just cant understand that.

 

[gadisperiang]

if it is not meant to be, why sulk? i just cant understand that.

me too. i mean, i'm in that situation once. but this time because of the parents dislike me. #:-S so we broke up. i have that sad time, but then i recover.

i am happy now.

 

[Cameo]

Don't worry, you'll soon find some time for yourself.. you always do rite? I'm waiting for my moment as well... have to wait till next month to be 'free'.. #:-S

i wish....#:-S
it is a bit different this time...
it is stormy within the organisation...
even the GMD (group managing director) was not spared...
i used to be a hoppers, but promise myself to stay put here when i joined last year...
arrrr... "here i go again on my own"....)))
maybe i was born a traveler and not meant to domicile anywhere...:">

 

[Cameo]

me too. i mean, i'm in that situation once. but this time because of the parents dislike me. #:-S so we broke up. i have that sad time, but then i recover.

i am happy now.

normally... a person decide to break up because they dont feel the love anymore... no matter what the reason laa...
so, in that case... its better not to proceed...
can she imagine if the guy proceed with the relationship until marriage yet the relationship has 'no love' anymore...
it would be so torturing and stressful to both...
tell her that and ask her to wake up...
life goes on...
its high time to smell the roses again...

 

[Cameo]

am not sure bout the rest but only one thing am so sure of: being a consultant is where the money is, not the user . as far as i know u were once a user. that kinda opportunity unfortunately is not available by now. because sap has been a laymen skills. u wont get paid that high only for user. last time there was a lot opportunities in sap, even they give u job placement without u crack ur head for job. like what happened to my fren. she joined sap training at hcl with job contract of 2 years with hcl. it was 2 years before. yes at that time a lot of sap opportunities in the market cuz it is still fresh. right now, it's not really, anymore. everything has to be worked out by own self.

n for a consultant to gain more money, they usually job hopping, after 2-3 cycles u can demand already. but if u just stay at one place, of course the pay is quite stagnant. this is according to my sister.

i just wonder, what reasons they use to job hopping? because as far as i know employer hate job hoppers :-?

if it is ok for you, may i ask some question here...
1) what is actually your friend doing now... i mean, her specific task...
2) how much she earn actually?
3) is she a contractual or a permanent staff? if contractual, is it directly contractual to the company or through a third party?

just wish to understand more....

 

[gadisperiang]

normally... a person decide to break up because they dont feel the love anymore... no matter what the reason laa...
so, in that case... its better not to proceed...
can she imagine if the guy proceed with the relationship until marriage yet the relationship has 'no love' anymore...
it would be so torturing and stressful to both...
tell her that and ask her to wake up...
life goes on...
its high time to smell the roses again...

i did tell her that.
in fact she said she could feel it before, the guy never really want her. he didnt love her. she's the one who started all the SMS and phone calls. he didnt care about her anymore.

that's what we said to her, that you broke up now, is a lot better than the future.

 

[Cameo]

i did tell her that.
in fact she said she could feel it before, the guy never really want her. he didnt love her. she's the one who started all the SMS and phone calls. he didnt care about her anymore.

that's what we said to her, that you broke up now, is a lot better than the future.

thats why theres a saying...
love the one that loves you, not the one that you love...
better still if it goes both ways...:">