Masa depan E-gold?

[wan12345]

relaks le kwn jgn le gelabah k......
x akn terjadi mcm stompy......
semua duit cuma ditukarkan kepada emas ok........
hal yg berlaku pd stompy
masa jd hal stompy aku x join lg investmet x tau le hehehe
nk lebih lanjut clik sine k

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-gold#Bullion_storage

 

[StanNero]

huhuh..xpa more info..ako suka dengar konsiperasi nih.

 

[cashcorp]

Sebenarnya, aku ada banyak teori konspirasi pasal e-Gold ni untuk kesekian lama. Tapi, aku cuma bincang dengan mereka yang mempunyai fikiran terbuka sahaja . Kat forum terbuka macam ni, nanti ramai pula yang emosi :lol:

Eh.. Kitorg nak tau gak teori tu..?? Bukak la thread baru pasal konspracy EG nih... Normal la kalau de org komen...

Yang penting, share la sesikit kalau boleh...

8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

Ehehe. Nanti ramai yang fire aku kang. Tak caya tengok je la ekekeke.

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Konspirasi I
Tahun lepas, e-Gold disiasat oleh FBI. Tapi, macam lepas macam tu je TANPA sebarang penjelasan. Kalaupun salah, kalaupun betul, kenapa kes tu tutup aje?

Persoalan;
1) Siapa pemilik e-Gold ? Bangsa mana yang suka dengan emas ini? (Aku tahu jawapannya, cuma nak beritahu kaitan pemiliknya dg bangsa dia)
2) Kenapa FBI tidak mendedahkan laporan? Adakah mereka juga bersubahat dengan e-Gold Ltd untuk menarik wang dari satu dunia ke simpanan mereka?
3) Siapakah penentu dasar Amerika Syarikat? Washington. Siapa menguasai Washington? Ahli kongres. Siapa ahli kongres? Rujuk no (1).

Ada perbincangan di CG yang merujuk kepada keruntuhan ekonomi kapitalis. Berbanding dengan matawang yang semata-mata hanya kertas, emas adalah lebih stabil berbanding dengan apa-apa barangan sekalipun di dalam dunia ini. Lagi pula, emas tidak boleh dicetak berbanding matawang kertas yang boleh dicetak sesuka hati. Bila berlaku lambakan matawang, maka berlakulah inflasi dan matawang kertas akan sampai nilai tidak berharga seperti wang pokok pisang zaman Jepun dahulu.

Teori keruntuhan kapitalis:
Sampai masa, hanya emas sahaja yang akan digunakan sebagai unit pertukaran bilamana matawang US jatuh.

Konspirasi II
Berapa besarkah rezab emas? Adakah ia benar-benar wujud spt dakwaan E-Gold Ltd?

Sekiranya benar:
Mereka telah nampak kelemahan sistem kapitalis. Jadi, pada suatu masa kelak, mereka ada rezab emas paling banyak di dunia. Ketika matawang kertas tidak lagi laku dunia, mereka akan menguasai dunia.

Sekiranya salah:
Diambil dari laman web ini;

E-Gold Limited
Date: 05-Dec-2005

The Nevis Financial Services Regulation and Supervision Department wishes to advise that the website www.e-gold.com contains inaccurate and misleading information as to its legal status.

E-Gold Limited was incorporated in July 1999 under the Nevis Business Corporation Ordinance 1984 (NBCO). However, it was subsequently found not to be in good standing and was struck from the register of companies on July 31, 2003 for non-payment of fees, as required by s.99 of the NBCO. E-Gold Limited has not applied to the Registrar to be restored to the register. Therefore, it is not on the register of companies in Nevis and as such we advise that persons viewing this site or proposing to do business with E-Gold Limited should exercise great caution.

For further information, please contact the Nevis Financial Services Regulation & Supervision Department by e-mail at: [email protected].
Updated 31/03/06

Takutnya, ia akan jadi kes spt Stormpay di mana sebenarnya mereka tiada wang itu.

Theory ni memang menarik.
Mungkin ade kebenarannya - especially on (ii) berape banyak simpanan e-gold yang ade (comparable to amount duit yang di masukkan ke e-gold).
Mase aku baru register e-gold dulu pun aku selalu wonder about this. Walaupun e-gold selalu kata die ade cukup physical gold, tapi e-gold tak penah publish berape simpanan physical gold vs currency yg ade dalam site. Musykil3 :?
Kalau die publish pun, die still boleh letak number tipu (sedangkan enron yg public listed pun boleh tipu)..Naye ni kalau jadi kes cam enron

On point no 1; akan sampai ke satu zaman di mana cuma gold aje yang boleh digunakan (dimana duit kertas/currency lain tidak akan diterima lagi). Jika itu terjadi, sesiapa yang memegang gold akan punya kuasa lah, dan yg takde terpaksa lah merayu/mengemis. Gold tidak boleh di print (kena cari/melombong) macam duit kertas dan tidak boleh ditukarganti (non-renewable). Ianya juga adalah satu alternative penyimpanan untuk mitigate risiko inflasi.
Dalam kes ni, puak AS (yahudi dan sebagainya) mungkin mempunyai strategi tertentu.

 

[StanNero]

apa lagi..lancarkan e-dirham la...lagu bagus..hmm mintak2 la sumer konsipirasi tu xbetul

 

[cashcorp]

apa lagi..lancarkan e-dirham la...lagu bagus..hmm mintak2 la sumer konsipirasi tu xbetul

e-dirham: idea baik ni.
Tapi sygnye;
aku baru check kat google: e-dirham.com dah digunekan oleh UAE Ministry of Finance and Industry

 

[StanNero]

la ya ker..dah ada?baru ingat nak jadi pelopor..muahahaha...

ye ke..sistem dia cam e-gold gak ker? ako ada dengaq yg malaysia nak guna matawang dirham..entah xdengar citer pun sampai la nie..

(off topic la plak )

 

[cashcorp]

la ya ker..dah ada?baru ingat nak jadi pelopor..muahahaha...

ye ke..sistem dia cam e-gold gak ker? ako ada dengaq yg malaysia nak guna matawang dirham..entah xdengar citer pun sampai la nie..

(off topic la plak )

ko boleh refer kat sini:-

http://www.e-dirham.gov.ae/

e-dirham.com.my belum ade lagi

 

[zackhen]

..maksud die egold=$$ investment tu ialah jadikan egold tu sbg internet investment currency jer...kite jgn simpan lame2 mcm simpan duit kt bank la...

 

[StanNero]

yup..e-gold e-gold..walaupun apa spekulasi yang melanda..e-gold adalah lubuk emas yang berjaya membukak mata kita untuk invest selain kad kredit...

Ako skrg memang dok guna passwrd panjang2 sampai ako sendiri pun lupa..xpa ako dah catit dalam diary dah..heheeh

 

[cashcorp]

Post ni kluar kat Talkgold: Report from UBS, 1 of the world's leading investment bank:-

Report by UBS, world's biggest gold trader
Russia leading global 'stealth demand' for gold

By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard (Filed: 05/06/2006)

The world's big money brigade is snapping up gold bullion at eight times the rate originally thought, according to a report by UBS, the world's biggest gold trader.

The huge sums entering precious metals below the radar are likely to help to put a floor under the gold price after the dramatic fall of $112 an ounce in late May - the sharpest correction since the bull market began five years ago.

The Swiss bank said information from its trading floor suggested that funds and investors were allocating 20pc of their commodity portfolios to precious metals.

This is far more than the index tracking funds run by Goldman Sachs, Dow Jones-AIG, and others, typically taken to be a guide to overall investment flows.

UBS said these indexes gave a deeply misleading impression, obscuring a silent shift of funds from oil into gold.

The Goldman Sachs GSCI index, for example, has a gold and silver weighting of just 2.27pc, compared to 73pc for energy.

"If our traders' experience is representative of trends in the wider market, this has very important implications for metals investment," said the bank's gold expert, John Reade.

The UBS gold reports are watched closely by the markets. The Zurich bank is the world's leading gold trader and manages the biggest known stash of private client wealth, surpassing $1,000bn.

The extra volume in gold buying has been channelled through the London Bullion Market Association, eclipsing the Comex futures market in New York usually monitored by speculators for clues.

Gold recovered from lows of $618.50 an ounce last week to end at $637.30 after weak US jobs data renewed fears of a dollar slide.

"The sort of money that is chasing this market higher is not hot money," Ross Norman, director of the BullionDesk.com.

"It is slow steady investment by pension funds and long-term buyers. Anybody who thinks this market is about to head sharply lower is reading it badly," he said.

Mr Norman said there was a chronic dearth of new mine supply across the world due to eco-regulations and a lack of discoveries.

Output in South Africa, the world's biggest supplier, fell to 10.9pc in the first quarter of 2006 despite high prices. The country's production has reached its lowest level since 1923. "It's becoming very hard to get gold out of the ground," he said.

Oil states armed with an estimated current account surplus of $480bn in 2006 are thought to be feeding the "stealth demand" for bullion, led by Russia.

President Vladimir Putin, a frequent critic of dollar hegemony, has ordered the Russian central bank to raise the gold share of foreign reserves from 5pc to 10pc.

Russia's reserves have surged to $237bn - the world's fourth biggest - after rising 61pc in 2004 and 40pc in 2005. With a current account surplus of 10pc of GDP, it must sweep up a big chunk of global gold output just to stop its bullion share of reserves from falling.

In China, monetary committee member Yu Yongding last week issued the most explicit call to date for Beijing to diversify its $875bn reserves into gold to protect against a tumbling dollar. "We need to use some of the reserves to buy other assets such as gold and strategic resources such as oil," he said.

UBS warned that gold may have further to fall, followed by a period of sideways trading before embarking on another powerful upward leg of the bull-market rally.

Mr Reade said the immediate risk was a global economic downturn, dragging gold down in an avalanche sale of all commodities.

But if the global economy turns nasty, gold will ultimately decouple from its base metal cousins and regain its usual role as a safe haven currency and defence against dollar disorder. "The bottom line is liquidation first, haven later," he said.
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