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apa itu ISLAM ?

perkataan agama tu kena tolak ke?

pubin ajer yg tolak terjemahan ad-din sbg agama, ad-din bg dier sistem kehidupan...

pd hal ad-din, agama, sistem kehidupan, religion, dll lg tuh semua benda yg sama tp dlm lain2 bhs jer...

sbb klu nak argue maner root word perkataan agama dlm bhs Arab...

cuber ler plak cari root word perkataan Religion dlm bhs Arab...

tgk klu dier blh jumper ker x...

ntah dier tuh fhm Al-Quran dgn terjemahan Al-Quran ker x, x tau ler plak...
 
perkataan agama tu kena tolak ke?

kalau nak pakai pun xpe tapi tu pinjaman dari bahasa sanskrit (hindu&buddha):)

macam pinjaman bahasa dosa, pahala juga.

macam pahala elok ditukar ke ganjaran
macam dosa elok ditukar balasan buruk

atas kefahaman masing-masing:)
 
kalau nak pakai pun xpe tapi tu pinjaman dari bahasa sanskrit (hindu&buddha):)

macam pinjaman bahasa dosa, pahala juga.

macam pahala elok ditukar ke ganjaran
macam dosa elok ditukar balasan buruk

atas kefahaman masing-masing:)

takder masalah nak guner pinjaman perkataan dr agama lain pon...

yg penting perkataan tuh dah lama difhmi oleh sesuatu msykt sesuai dgn maksud perkataan yg diterjemahkan...

spt jannah = syurga, an-nar = neraka, ad-din = agama...

sbb klu Al-Quran diterjemahkan ke dlm bhs sanskrit nnt perkataan2 tuh jg yg akan digunakan...

cth lain spt ad-din = religion yg berasal dr bhs Latin religare atau religio...

tak kan ler x blh translate ad-din = religion dlm terjemahan Al-Quran bhs Inggeris plak hanya sbb ia adalah bhs utama tulisan Bible...

so no point ler nak menghadkan penggunaan perkataan dr agama lain apabila ia digunakan dlm terjemahan shj...
 
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Secara asanya Islam adalah

- mengucap 2 kalimah syahadah
- Solat
- Puasa
- Zakat
- Haji

Perkara2 tersebut adalah perbuatan luaran dan dihukum dengan hukum hakam luaran (fiqh). Akan tetapi bukan terhad pada itu saja... semua perbuatan luaran yg berunsur islam adalah Islam. Seseorang tu dikatakan islam jika perbuatan, percakapan dan pengakuannya (berunsur perbuatan luaran) adalah Islam.

Iman dan Ihsan adalah perbuatan dalaman. Iman adalah iktikad dan Ihsan adalah suasana rohani.

Lengkap "deen" jika dipenuhi ketiga2nya iaitu Iman, Islam dan Ihsan.
 
takder masalah nak guner pinjaman perkataan dr agama lain pon...

yg penting perkataan tuh dah lama difhmi oleh sesuatu msykt sesuai dgn maksud perkataan yg diterjemahkan...

spt jannah = syurga, an-nar = neraka, ad-din = agama...

sbb klu Al-Quran diterjemahkan ke dlm bhs sanskrit nnt perkataan2 tuh jg yg akan digunakan...

cth lain spt ad-din = religion yg berasal dr bhs Latin religare atau religio...

tak kan ler x blh translate ad-din = religion dlm terjemahan Al-Quran bhs Inggeris plak hanya sbb ia adalah bhs utama tulisan Bible...

so no point ler nak menghadkan penggunaan perkataan dr agama lain apabila ia digunakan dlm terjemahan shj...

yup betul terjemahan untuk menunjukkan sesuatu maksud tapi ramai yang tidak tahu maksud sebenar. bahasa melayu ni limit sangat banyak pinjaman.:(
 
kalau nak pakai pun xpe tapi tu pinjaman dari bahasa sanskrit (hindu&buddha):)

macam pinjaman bahasa dosa, pahala juga.

macam pahala elok ditukar ke ganjaran
macam dosa elok ditukar balasan buruk

atas kefahaman masing-masing:)

dosa....bila hati rasa tak tenang,gelisah serba tak kena selepas membuat sesuatu..pahala sebaliknya .huhuhu
 
sbb klu nak argue maner root word perkataan agama dlm bhs Arab...

cuber ler plak cari root word perkataan Religion dlm bhs Arab...

nko tetap masih meraban seperti dahulu.. lain aku tanya, lain nko faham .. bwuahahaha :eek:

apa akar kata untuk "deen"?

dan apa ayat "agama" dalam bahasa arab?

see? bila masa aku tanya root word untuk perkataan agama?

Aku tanya root word untuk perkataan "deen", bukan agama ... bangap ! :eek:
 
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nak cari akar perkataan "agama" dlm bhs Arab mmg takder ler...

apsal pula takdak?

"mazhab" itu "agama" ler dalam bahasa arab! :eek:

akar kata untuk "deen" adalah "د ي ن" .. .apa itu "د ي ن"?

Daynun (n.): dayn Debt; lending.


د ي ن

= Dal-Ya-Nun = obedience/submissiveness, servility, religion, high/elevated/noble/glorious rank/condition/state, took/receive a loan or borrowed upon credit, become indebted, in debt, under the obligation of a debt, contract a debt, repay/reimburse a loan, rule/govern/manage it, possess/own it, become habituated/accustomed to something, confirmation, death (because it is a debt everyone must pay), a particular law/statute, system, custom/habit/business, a way/course/manner of conduct/acting, repayment/compensation.

Daynun (n.): Debt; lending.
Tadaayantum (prf. 2nd. p. m. plu. VI.): You transact.​

ada something wrong kat atas tu?

macam mana akar kata untuk "hutang" dan "transaksi" ( "د ي ن") boleh lepas border dan bermaksud "agama" pula?

jauh kena konar ngan pak arab niee... citer pasal business, tetiba jadi agama.. bwuahaha :eek:

Orang-orang A’raab lebih keras kufurnya dan sikap munafiknya
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mamat ni ada buat perbandingan "deen" (sistem kehidupan) dan "madhab" (agama)

DIN—this word has been used in various contexts, among them being ascendancy, sovereignty, management, conduct of affairs, ruling power, mastership, ownership, exercise of power, code of law, constitution, law of requital, an order. The Quran has described Islam as Ad-Din, which is generally translated as religion. However, in the light of the above meanings, it should be clear that this is not only incorrect, but distorts and negates the very meaning of din. Islam is not a religion (madhab), and it has never been described as one in the Quran. Islam is a way of life, a system, a code of law. In the external universe Islam signifies the Divine Order that governs life and the movement of the entire universe. The whole purpose of the Quran is to establish a universal order based on the Divinely ordained values of life. This is ad-din; Islam: A Challenge to Religion

A comparative study of religion or madhhab, and din, should help us understand the vital and fundamental characteristics of each and the differences between the two:

1. Madhhab is merely some sort of subjective experience and is concerned only with the so-called private relationship between God and man.

Din is an objective reality and a system of collective life.

2. Every follower of a madhhab is satisfied that he has established a communion with the Almighty, and the objective of each individual is his own salvation.

The aim of din on the other hand is the welfare and progress of all mankind, and the character and constitution of a society indicates whether or not it is founded upon the Divine Law.

3. Madhhab does not afford us any objective. criterion by which we could determine whether or not our actions are producing the desired results.

In a social order governed by din, the development of a collective and harmonious life correctly indicates whether or not the people are pursuing the right course.

4. Madhhab is hostile to scientific investigation and is an adversary of reason, so that it could flourish unhampered with the aid of a blind faith.

Din helps in the development of human reason and knowledge, allows full freedom to accept or reject on the basis of reason and arguments, and encourages investigation and discovery of all the natural phenomena to illumine the path of human life and its advancement in the light of the Permanent Values.

5. Madhhab follows the susceptibilities and prejudices of men and pampers them.

Din seeks to lead men to a path of life that is in harmony with the realities of life.

6. In every age, therefore, madhhab sets up new idols and mumbo-jumbos in order to keep the people's attention away from the real problems of life.

But din is rational and radical: it breaks all idols, old and new, and is never variable in its principles.

7. Madhhab induces a perpetual sense of fear in the minds of men and seeks to frighten them into conformity;

While din treats fear as a form of polytheism and seeks to make men courageous, daring and self-reliant.

8. Madhhab prompts men to bow before every seat of authority and prestige, religious as well as temporal.

Din encourages man to walk about with his head erect, and attain self-confidence.

9. Madhhab induces man to flee from struggle of life.

But din calls upon him to face the realities of life squarely, whatever the hazards.

10. Madhhab treats the world of matter with contempt and calls upon man to renounce it. It promises paradise only in the Hereafter as a reward for the renunciation of the material world.

Din, on the other hand, enjoins the conquest of matter and leads man to immeasurable heights of attainment. It exhorts him to seek well-being and happiness in this world as well as felicity in the life Hereafter.

11. Madhhab encourages belief in fatalism, and this tends to dissuade man from active life and self-development.

Din gives man power to challenge fate, and provides energy for a life of activity and self-development.

12. Madhhab seeks to comfort the weak, the helpless and the oppressed with the belief that the affairs of this world are governed by the Will of God and that its acceptance and resignation helps to endear them to God. This sort of teaching naturally tends to morbidity, and emboldens their religious leaders who profess to interpret the Will of God, so that they indulge in their misdeeds with perfect impunity and persuade the adherents to a complete and quiet submission.

Din, on the other hand, raises the banner of revolt against all forms of tyranny and exploitation. It calls upon the weak and the oppressed to follow the Divine Laws and thereby seek to establish a social order in which all tyrants and oppressors will be forced to accept the dictates of right and justice. In this social order, there is no place for dictators, capitalists or priests. They are all enemies of din.

13. Madhhab enjoins religious meditation in the name of worship and thus induces self-deception.

Din exhorts men to assert themselves and struggle perpetually for the establishment of the Divine Social Order, and its betterment when attained. Worship in din really means obedience to the Laws of God.

14. Madhhab frowns and sneers at all things of art and beauty.

Din defies those who forbid the enjoyment of the good and beautiful things of life which God has created for the enjoyment of man.

15. Madhhab denounces everything new and declares all innovation as sin.

Din holds that the needs and demands of human life keep changing with the change in the conditions of life; change and innovation are, therefore, demanded by life itself. Only the Divine Laws are immutable.

It should now be easy for us to see the fundamental difference between din and madhhab. Islam means saying "Yes" to life; while the response of religion is "No"!
 
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