Kenapa perbandingan "MATA DAJJAL & ALLAH" ?

dhaniel said:

mai kot mana hadis tu?tuhan dah kabo dlm quran..tidak ada 1 pun yg sama dgn DIA..baca quran dh ler pubin..bukan semua hadis boleh trm bulat2..sesat nnt..hanya 1 golongan saja tuhan terima di akhirat nnt..ASWJ...

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pubin said:

kalau mengikut hadis.. macam tu lah bunyi nyer

tapi macam mana nak tahu benar atau tidak jika berdasarkan hadis semata-mata?
bukankah hadis sepatutnya menerangkan al-Quran, bukan nyer utk create cerita baru.. :-?

test balik, kisah Dajjal takda dalam al-Quran
kisah Nabi Isa as akan kembali pun takda dalam al-Quran..
al-Quran jelas2 cakap Nabi Isa telah diwafatkan... #2205, blog
dan tambahan pula apabila ada hadis sahih mengatakan:

Ketahuilah bahawa Dajjal itu buta sebelah matanya
Tuhan kamu tidak buta sebelah matanya

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lagi ler menimbulkan keraguan..
sebab hadis itu bercanggah menzahirkan Allah sekurang2nya mempunyai "sebelah mata"
(bukan mengatakan Maha Melihat, tetapi "MATA", iaitu anggota tubuh yg digunakan untuk melihat)
dan boleh pula kemudiannya membandingkan Allah dengan Dajjal
aper ni?
agenda Yahudi/Kristian ker aper ni?
nak samakan dgn konsep Messiah?
hero akhir zaman daripada Kitab Bible?
satu hadis menaikkan Nabi Musa as (Torah, hadis perintah solat)
satu lagi menaikkan Nabi Isa as (Messiah, hero akhir zaman)
jadi tak masuk akal utk Rasulullah SAW buat cerita macam ni...
dan tak masuk akal Allah nak membandingkan diriNya dengan Dajjal, samada melalui wahyu atau tidak

so.. macam mana nak tahu hadis ini bukan "kata-kata rekaan"?

bukankah jalan terbaik ialah mengimbangi kembali dengan fakta al-Quran?

Dan katakanlah: “Kebenaran itu ialah yang datang dari Tuhan kamu,
maka sesiapa yang mahu beriman, hendaklah ia beriman
dan sesiapa yang mahu kufur ingkar
biarlah dia mengingkarinya...” [...]
(al-Kahfi:29)

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see? kebenaran tu daripada Allah.. bukan daripada selain Allah..
so.. kenapa nak percaya kepada yang selain Allah?

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pubin said:

pertama, mutasyaabihat.. Allah tak suruh ikut, tinggalkan...
tambahan ler pula siap nak labelkan "SAHIH" dan buat kitab mengenainya
lagi tak munasabah...
dan Allah cakap orang macam ni orang sesat... (refer pada ali-Imran:7)

Ketahuilah bahawa Dajjal itu buta sebelah matanya
Tuhan kamu tidak buta sebelah matanya

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keduanya.. bila hadis tu cakap mata Dajjal
itu bukan kiasan, itu maksud literal ler tu...
hampir semua makhluk Allah ada "MATA"
Dajjal memang ada mata, sebab itu dia "BUTA"..
kalau takda mata, buat apa nak cakap dia "BUTA"???

so.. mata Dajjal adalah dimaksudkan secara "literal"
1. Dajjal ada mata
2. Mata Dajjal buta sebelah

dengan maksud mata Dajjal yang difahamkan secara "literal" ini...
hadis kemudiannya membandingkan pula fahaman ini dengan "MATA" Allah..

aper ni?
macam mana nko nak banding satu yang "literal" dengan yang satu yang "kiasan"?
kalau yang first tu "literal"..
yang keduanya mestilah juga difahamkan secara "literal" kerana kedua2nya diperbuat perbandingan pada hadis ini...

so mengikut hadis... Rasulullah SAW cakap Allah ada mata, sepertimana Dajjal juga ada mata
dan bezanya sekadar
Dajjal buta sebelah, Allah pula tidak buta sebelah

aper nie?
dia ni orang Islam ker tak, atau dia faham ker apa yang dia tulis sblm label "SAHIH"?
ni persoalan akidah ni, bukan main2.. :-?

jadi cuba nko explain sikit kat aku
aku dah jelas dengan khusus, takkan jawapan general juga nko bagi...
nko percaya ker cerita bukhari bahawa Rasulullah SAW mengatakan Allah ada mata yang boleh dibandingkan dgn mata Dajjal?

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pubin said:

itu aku tahu, takda satu pun menyamai Allah...
masalah nyer apa maksud hadis tu, bukan al-Quran..

yang membandingkan mata Dajjal dengan Allah
di atas persoalan "BUTA", "TIDAK BUTA" dan "MATA MAKHLUK"

perbandingan aper ni? :-?

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pubin said:

BlueDream said:

Ko sebenarnya yg tak faham soalan

Allah berfirman "tidak ada sesiapa pun yang dapat menerangkan kedatangannya pada waktunya melainkan Dia"

Siapa yang terangkan Nabi Isa a.s. tak mati di tiang salib dan Ahli Kitab (Yahudi dan Nasrani) semuanya akan beriman kepada Isa a.s (sebagai Al-Masih) sebelum matinya?...

Maksudnya apa?

Nabi Isa a.s belum wafat... dan akan datang semula sehingga semua Ahli Kitab itu membenarkannya.

Dan baca secara menyeluruh, ayat2 yg aku dah bagi

Kemudian ayat terakhir yg kau pertikai sangat tu, samada guna "tanda" atau "pengetahuan" sebagai tafsirannya... kedua2nya akan membawa maksud orang akan tahu bahawa dah dekat kiamat. Kerana Allah yg dah bagitahu dalam ayat tersebut.... Isa a.s itu adalah "pengetahuan" kiamat.

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rujuk Post #2161

Mereka bertanya kepadamu (wahai Muhammad) tentang hari kiamat:
Bilakah masa datangnya?
Katakanlah: Sesungguhnya pengetahuan mengenainya hanyalah ada di sisi Tuhanku
tidak ada sesiapa pun yang dapat menerangkan kedatangannya pada waktunya melainkan Dia
(Huru-hara) hari kiamat itu amatlah berat di langit dan di bumi
ia tidak datang kepada kamu melainkan secara mengejut
Mereka bertanya kepadamu seolah-olah engkau sedia mengetahuinya
Katakanlah: Sesungguhnya pengetahuan mengenai hari kiamat itu adalah di sisi Allah
tetapi kebanyakan manusia tidak mengetahui [surah al-'Araaf : 187]

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Kesimpulan:

1. Hanya Allah mengetahui bilakah masa datangnya Kiamat
2. Tidak ada sesiapa pun yang dapat menerangkan kedatangannya (tanda) Kiamat
3. Tidak ada sesiapa pun yang dapat menerangkan waktu Kiamat berlaku
4. Hanya Allah berupaya menerangkan kedatangannya (tanda) Kiamat (mengikut al-Quran)
5. Hanya Allah berupaya menerangkan kedatangannya waktu Kiamat berlaku (mengikut al-Quran)
6. Kiamat datang secara mengejut
7. Rasulullah SAW seolah-olah mengetahui (seolah-olah engkau sedia mengetahuinya)
TETAPI tidak mengetahuinya (Katakanlah: Sesungguhnya pengetahuan mengenai hari kiamat itu adalah di sisi Allah tetapi kebanyakan manusia tidak mengetahui)

macam mana tafsiran nko dan ulama-ulama nko lagi hebat daripada Allah ni?
Allah cakap "tidak ada sesiapa pun yang dapat menerangkan kedatangannya pada waktunya Hari Kiamat"
nko dan ulama cakap "kami tahu bila ianya berlaku melalui tanda-tanda Kiamat dan cerita hadis"
akidah nko dan ulama nko macam mana ni? cer citer..

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BlueDream said:

Penggunaan TAWAFFA dalam AQ

(Ingatlah) ketika Allah berfirman: "Wahai Isa! Sesungguhnya Aku akan mengambilmu [TAWAFFA] dengan sempurna, dan akan mengangkatmu ke sisiKu, dan akan membersihkanmu dari orang-orang kafir, dan juga akan menjadikan orang-orang yang mengikutmu mengatasi orang-orang kafir (yang tidak beriman kepadamu), hingga ke hari kiamat. Kemudian kepada Akulah tempat kembalinya kamu, lalu Aku menghukum (memberi keputusan) tentang apa yang kamu perselisihkan".
(A-li'Imraan 3:55)

TAWAFFA (bahasa melayunya selalu disebut secara mudah sebagai wafat) istilah yg digunakan dalam Al-Quran boleh berlaku dalam 2 keadaan... iaitu pertama semasa tidur dan kedua semasa sampai ajal.

Mereka yg belum sampai ajal iaitu hanya tidur sahaja... rohnya akan dikembalikan ke jasadnya apabila ia terjaga.

Allah (Yang Menguasai Segala-galanya), Ia mengambil dan memisahkan satu-satu jiwa[TAWAFFA] dari badannya, jiwa orang yang sampai ajalnya semasa matinya, dan jiwa orang yang tidak mati: dalam masa tidurnya; kemudian Ia menahan jiwa orang yang Ia tetapkan matinya dan melepaskan balik jiwa yang lain (ke badannya) sehingga sampai ajalnya yang ditentukan. Sesungguhnya yang demikian itu mengandungi tanda-tanda yang membuktikan kekuasaan Allah bagi kaum yang berfikir (untuk memahaminya).
(Az-Zumar 39:42)

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pandai-pandai korang jer tafsir ikut "ilmu nenek moyang korang"..
Allah tak cakap apa-apa, nkorang jer tafsir sesuka hati.. hehe

God said, “O Jesus!
I will cause you to die of natural causes
I will exalt you in My Sight
and will clear you of the slander of the disbelievers
And I will cause those who truly follow you to dominate those who reject
until the Day of Resurrection
Eventually, all of you will return to Me
Then I will judge among you about that wherein you used to differ.”
(A-li'Imraan 3:55)

Wafaat = Dying of natural causes.
Rafa’ = Exalt = Raising in honor.
Ilayya = To me = allegorically, in My Sight

(Only the living of the mind and heart can make choices in this world.)
It is God Who takes their consciousness upon death
and of the living during their sleep
He withholds it for those upon whom He has passed the decree of death
and restores the others until an appointed time (according to His laws)
Herein are signs for people who think
[Az-Zumar 39:62]

BlueDream said:

Dalil Nabi Isa as tidak mati di tiang salib

Dan orang-orang (Yahudi yang kafir) itupun merancangkan tipu daya (hendak membunuh Nabi ‘Isa), dan Allah pula membalas tipu daya (mereka); dan (ingatlah), Allah sebijak-bijak yang membalas (dan menggagalkan segala jenis) tipu daya. (Ingatlah) ketika Allah berfirman: “Wahai ‘Isa! Sesungguhnya Aku akan mewafatkan kamu (merehatkan kamu dengan sempurna: mutawaffika), dan akan mengangkatmu (rafi‘uka) ke sisi-Ku.” [Surah Ali ‘Imran 3:54-55]

“Padahal mereka tidak membunuhnya dan tidak memalangnya (di kayu palang - salib), tetapi diserupakan bagi mereka (orang yang mereka bunuh itu seperti Nabi ‘Isa). Dan Sesungguhnya orang-orang yang telah berselisih faham, mengenai Nabi ‘Isa, sebenarnya mereka berada dalam keadaan syak (ragu-ragu) tentang menentukan (pembunuhannya). Tiada sesuatu pengetahuan pun bagi mereka mengenainya selain daripada mengikut sangkaan semata-mata; dan mereka tidak membunuhnya dengan yakin. Bahkan Allah telah mengangkat (rafa‘ahuLlah) Nabi ‘Isa kepada-Nya; dan adalah Allah Maha Kuasa, lagi Maha Bijaksana.” [Surah al-Nisa’ 4:157-158]

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tak payah cakap pun semua orang tahu..

They (the opponents) made some plans
but so did God
God is the most Virtuous of planners
[They schemed to arrest and crucify Jesus but God assured him]
God said, “O Jesus!
I will cause you to die of natural causes
I will exalt you in My Sight
and will clear you of the slander of the disbelievers
And I will cause those who truly follow you to dominate those who reject
until the Day of Resurrection
Eventually, all of you will return to Me
Then I will judge among you about that wherein you used to differ.”
(A-li'Imraan 3:54-55)

Wafaat = Dying of natural causes.
Rafa’ = Exalt = Raising in honor.
Ilayya = To me = allegorically, in My Sight

And for claiming, “We killed the Messiah Jesus son of Mary, God’s Messenger.”
They never killed him
and never crucified him
But it appeared so to them
and the matter remained dubious to them
Those who hold conflicting views on this issue are but confused
They have no real knowledge
and they are following mere conjecture
Most certainly, they never killed him
Nay, God exalted him in His Sight
(They had plotted thinking that crucifixion was a death of curse. But God raised him in honor)
God is Almighty, Wise.
Everyone among the People of the Book must believe before dying
in the truth just stated
Jesus will be a witness against them on the Day of Resurrection.
[refer to 5:116-117. Neither was he crucified nor raised to the heavens. God is Omnipresent]
(4:157-159)

BlueDream said:

Dalil Nabi Isa a.s akan muncul semula bagi memperbetulkan pegangan Ahli Kitab

“Dan tidak ada seorang pun daripada kalangan Ahli Kitab melainkan dia akan beriman kepada Nabi ‘Isa sebelum matinya dan pada Hari Kiamat kelak Nabi ‘Isa akan menjadi saksi terhadap mereka.” [Surah al-Nisa’ 4:159]

Sebagaimana yg kita telah ketahui bahawa Ahli Kitab Yahudi telah melakukan rancangan jahat terhadap Nabi Isa a.s. menunjukkan mereka tidak beriman kepada Nabi Isa a.s. Jika yg demikian maka silaplah ayat AQ [Surah al-Nisa’ 4:159] di atas. Tetapi sesungguhnya AQ itu sentiasa benar. Ahli2 kitab tersebut akan beriman kepada Nabi Isa a.s setelah kedatangannya nanti.

Dan adalah Nabi Isa a.s merupakan salah satu tanda besar kedatangan hari kiamat

“Dan sesungguhnya Nabi ‘Isa menjadi tanda kedatangan Hari Kiamat, maka janganlah kamu ragu-ragu tentang (Hari Kiamat) itu, dan turutlah (petunjuk-Ku); inilah jalan yang lurus.” [Surah al-Zukhruf 43:61]

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pubin said:

macam tu pula nkorang faham, ultraman nko percaya?

And for claiming, “We killed the Messiah Jesus son of Mary, God’s Messenger.”
They never killed him
and never crucified him
But it appeared so to them
and the matter remained dubious to them
Those who hold conflicting views on this issue are but confused
They have no real knowledge
and they are following mere conjecture
Most certainly, they never killed him
Nay, God exalted him in His Sight
(They had plotted thinking that crucifixion was a death of curse. But God raised him in honor)
God is Almighty, Wise.
Everyone among the People of the Book must believe before dying
in the truth just stated
Jesus will be a witness against them on the Day of Resurrection.
[refer to 5:116-117. Neither was he crucified nor raised to the heavens. God is Omnipresent]
(4:157-159)

On the Resurrection Day
God will say: O Jesus, son of Mary!
Did you say to mankind, “Worship me and my mother as gods besides God?‘ << zaman bila? jasad mak Isa as diangkat juga?
He will respond, ”Be You Glorified!
I could never say what was not my right.
If I said such a thing
You would certainly know it
You know what is in my mind
and I do not know what is in Your mind
You are the Knower of what is beyond human perception.”
“Never did I say to them except what You commanded me to say
’Worship and obey God my Lord and your Lord.’
I was a witness to them as long as I lived among them
After You caused me to die (تَوَفَّيْتَنِي) << click
You were the Watcher over them and You are Witness over all things and events.
(5.116-117)

They (the opponents) made some plans
but so did God
God is the most Virtuous of planners
[They schemed to arrest and crucify Jesus but God assured him]
God said, “O Jesus!
I will cause you to die of natural causes
I will exalt you in My Sight
and will clear you of the slander of the disbelievers
And I will cause those who truly follow you to dominate those who reject
until the Day of Resurrection
Eventually, all of you will return to Me
Then I will judge among you about that wherein you used to differ.”
(A-li'Imraan 3:54-55)

Wafaat = Dying of natural causes.
Rafa’ = Exalt = Raising in honor.
Ilayya = To me = allegorically, in My Sight

This (Qur’an) gives knowledge of the oncoming Revolution
So, bear no doubt about it, and follow Me
This alone is the straight path
(43:61 )

Mengenai "Nabi ‘Isa menjadi tanda kedatangan Hari Kiamat", sebenarnya ialan bukan "tanda", tetapi "pengetahuan". Rujuk Post #2119

Many commentators regard Innahu in this verse as relating to Jesus
and then postulate that Jesus is the sign of the Resurrection Day

In my opinion, this fallacy is the result of:

1. Missing the context of free will in the last few verses.

2. Taking the Hour only to mean the Resurrection Day.

But ’The Hour’ is frequently mentioned in the Qur’an to indicate Revolution
the ultimate outcome
and the culmination of the Law of Requital
The Revolution alluded to here points to the advent of Prophet Muhammad (S).

3. Losing sight of the capital format of M in ‘follow Me’, that is God.
There is no ‘Qul’, say to them, or tell them O Prophet, in this verse.
’Follow Me’ would then clearly signify ’Follow God’s revelation, the Qur’an’. It
is not Jesus asking to follow him. Here is my understanding of the verse: ‘Jesus
has already foretold the advent of Muhammad (S) and a benevolent revolution
at his hands. So, follow My commands given in this Book’

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Al-Maidah: 5:116

Sahih International
And [beware the Day] when Allah will say, "O Jesus, Son of Mary, did you say to the people, 'Take me and my mother as deities besides Allah ?'" He will say, "Exalted are You! It was not for me to say that to which I have no right. If I had said it, You would have known it. You know what is within myself, and I do not know what is within Yourself. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen.

Muhsin Khan
And (remember) when Allah will say (on the Day of Resurrection): "O 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary)! Did you say unto men: 'Worship me and my mother as two gods besides Allah?' " He will say: "Glory be to You! It was not for me to say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, You would surely have known it. You know what is in my inner-self though I do not know what is in Yours, truly, You, only You, are the All-Knower of all that is hidden and unseen.

Pickthall
And when Allah saith: O Jesus, son of Mary! Didst thou say unto mankind: Take me and my mother for two gods beside Allah? he saith: Be glorified! It was not mine to utter that to which I had no right. If I used to say it, then Thou knewest it. Thou knowest what is in my mind, and I know not what is in Thy Mind. Lo! Thou, only Thou, art the Knower of Things Hidden?

Yusuf Ali
And behold! Allah will say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of Allah'?" He will say: "Glory to Thee! never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, Thou I know not what is in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden.

Shakir
And when Allah will say: O Isa son of Marium! did you say to men, Take me and my mother for two gods besides Allah he will say: Glory be to Thee, it did not befit me that I should say what I had no right to (say); if I had said it, Thou wouldst indeed have known it; Thou knowest what is in my mind, and I do not know what is in Thy mind, surely Thou art the great Knower of the unseen things.

Dr. Ghali
And as Allah said, "O Isa son of Maryam, (Jesus son of Mary) did you say to mankind, "cTake me and my mother to your selves as two gods, apart from Allah '?" He said, All Extolment be to You! In no way is it for me to say what I have no right to. In case I ever said it. then You already know it. You know whatever is within my self, and I do not know what is within Your Self; surely You, Ever You, are The Superb Knower of the Things Unseen.

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Al-Maidah: 5:117

Sahih International
I said not to them except what You commanded me - to worship Allah , my Lord and your Lord. And I was a witness over them as long as I was among them; but when You took me up (تَوَفَّيْتَنِي), You were the Observer over them, and You are, over all things, Witness.

Muhsin Khan
"Never did I say to them aught except what You (Allah) did command me to say: 'Worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord.' And I was a witness over them while I dwelt amongst them, but when You took me up (تَوَفَّيْتَنِي), You were the Watcher over them, and You are a Witness to all things. (This is a great admonition and warning to the Christians of the whole world).

Pickthall
I spake unto them only that which Thou commandedst me, (saying): Worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord. I was a witness of them while I dwelt among them, and when Thou tookest me (تَوَفَّيْتَنِي) Thou wast the Watcher over them. Thou art Witness over all things.

Yusuf Ali
"Never said I to them aught except what Thou didst command me to say, to wit, 'worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord'; and I was a witness over them whilst I dwelt amongst them; when Thou didst take me up (تَوَفَّيْتَنِي) Thou wast the Watcher over them, and Thou art a witness to all things.

Shakir
I did not say to them aught save what Thou didst enjoin me with: That serve Allah, my Lord and your Lord, and I was a witness of them so long as I was among them, but when Thou didst cause me to die (تَوَفَّيْتَنِي), Thou wert the watcher over them, and Thou art witness of all things.

Dr. Ghali
In no way did I say to them (anything) except whatever You commanded me (saying), "Worship Allah, my Lord, and your Lord." And I was a witness over them, as long as I was among them; then as soon as You took me up (تَوَفَّيْتَنِي), You, Ever You, have been The Watcher over them, and You are Ever-Witnessing over everything.

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pubin said:

semua tahu dalam al-Quran tiada langsung cerita Dajjal..
jadi tanya dia orang pun tak guna, tak kisahlah berapa juzuk dia hafal..

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dhaniel said:

jgn persoal la klu taktau...rahsia Allah..byk sgt tanya knp mengapa nnt jadi papa

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zeman said:

mmg xde dalam al-quran dajjal ni..cuma ada ttg kisah yakjuj dan makjuj je(rujuk surah al-kahfi).tapi kesahihah ttg dajjal ni ada dalam hadis2 dan jika diselarikan dengan al-quran secara terus mmg akan nampk tidak akan selari. mungkin jgk dajjal ni adalah dari 2 golongan ni samada yakjuj@makjuj.

cuma disini dajjal ni lebih di rujuk kepada pemfitnah yang besar dan banyak dinyatakan dalam hadis2 yang telah disahkan kesahihahnya..jadi kita mesti percaya la..sebab dajjal ni adalah benda yang ghaib (sebab tidak nmpk) dan percaya kepada benda2 ghaib adalah salah satu sifat orang2 yang bertaqwa..wallahu...tido dlu...

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pubin said:

jumatmajid said:

aku dah respon spt dibwh, ShareMalaysia plak yg layan aku dlm isu nih, nko plak yg x respon blk...

nko menyibukkan diri layan sedara BlueDream & mybizme bincang ttg terjemahan kalimah "la'ilmun" sama ada ia bermaksud "tanda" atau "pengetahuan" dlm Az-Zukhruf, 61...

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ya, perbincangan aku ngan BlueDream bagi satu isu kecil
iaitu kononnya surah Surah al-Zukhruf 43:61 sebagai otoriti kedatangan Nabi Isa as pada akhir zaman

BlueDream said:

“Dan sesungguhnya Nabi ‘Isa menjadi tanda kedatangan Hari Kiamat, maka janganlah kamu ragu-ragu tentang (Hari Kiamat) itu, dan turutlah (petunjuk-Ku); inilah jalan yang lurus.” [Surah al-Zukhruf 43:61]

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padahal, dia orang yang salah terjemah...
sebab لَعِلْمٌ = laʿil'mun bermaksud "pengetahuan" (knowledge), bukan "tanda" (sign)

berbeza maksud di antara...
1. Nabi ‘Isa menjadi "tanda kedatangan Hari Kiamat" << menyamai maksud tanda2 Hari Kiamat berlaku apabila Nabi Isa as kembali, lari akidah ni sbb al-Quran cakap tiada siapa pun tahu bila Kiamat akan berlaku
2. "pengetahuan" tentang Hari Kiamat << maksud biasalah, semua nabi-nabi ada pengetahuan dan memberikan peringatan tentang Hari Kiamat, tepatlah ni

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tak sama maksud kan???
jadi nko pun menyampok isu kecil ni...
the best part, last2 tak jawab juga...
jawab "KALAU".. nak menang juga... hehe

pubin said:

jumatmajid said:

KALAU aku jwb YA, "laʿil'mun" itu adalah "pengetahuan"...
aper yg nko blh buktikan melalui kalimah itu???

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ada "KALAU" pula.. hehe

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pubin said:

tudia.. dia spin dah, menyengetttttt

persoalan simple jer, bentuk "yes" or "no",
iaitu samada "laʿil'mun" bermaksud
1. pengetahuan (knowledge); atau
2. tanda (sign)

mengikut asas kata...
"laʿil'mun = ILMU (pengetahuan)

لَعِلْمٌ = laʿil'munhttp://corpus.quran.com/qurandictionary.jsp?q=Elm#(43:61:2) << click​

mengikut tafsiran...

group ilmu
Sahih international = pengetahuan (knowledge)
Pickthall = pengetahuan (knowledge)
Shakir = pengetahuan (knowledge)
Dr. Ghali = pengetahuan (knowledge)
Indonesian = pengetahuan (knowledge)

group tanda
Muhsin Khan = tanda (sign)
Yusuf Ali = tanda (sign)
Malay = tanda (sign)

jadi.. maksud "laʿil'mun" mana yang betul?
1. pengetahuan tentang hari kiamat; atau
2. tanda kedatangan hari kiamat

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pubin said:

hadis tu yang membezakan Tuhan dengan Dajjal, dan nkorang percaya tak?

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MrPlgBest said:

lg poning disini kepalo hambo...

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