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Old 17-10-2012, 10:25 AM
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takkan tak paham2 lagi apa yg tt cakap tu??????
baca kasi habis dan bro akan faham tujuan TT bukan nak citer pasal saham pun...

tak faham warrant leh kata saham anak...ades la...

TT ni contoh manusia yang ikut cakap orang, tanpa kaji sendiri..last2 yang kena gelak dia, bukan orang yang tipu dia...kesian...

tu bro lantana dah bagi penjelasan..harap baca dan fahamkan...nak jugak kena tipu ngan orang, takleh kata apa la...
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Old 17-10-2012, 10:31 AM
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Untuk mudah faham,ada dua jenis warrant di BSKL.

(i) company warrant
(ii)structured warrant

Sebagaimana namanya,company warrant diisukan oleh company.Haram atau halal company warrant,bergantung

kepada mother share.Kalau mother share nya shariah-compliance,cthnya mcm FGV,maka,company

warrant nya pun halal.
Buat masa ni,FGV belum mengisu any company warrant.Structured warrant plak diisu

oleh investment bank atau broker yang mempunyai lesen untuk menjalankan perniagaan derivatif.

Kebanyakan structured warrant adalah cash settle,maksudnya no physical delivery of share,ataupun dlm

bahasa mudah,structured warrant selalunya tak ditukar kepada mother share.However,regardless of

whether the structured warrant ditukar ke mother share ataupun cash settle,investment bank perlu

membeli certain amount of mother share,as a delta hedging,sebagaimana yg digariskan

oleh SC.So,maknanya,if an investor buy a company warrant,dan convert ke mother share,there will

be an increase in the number of shares in the company,as new shares has to be issued for the company

warrant,where as in the structured warrant case,the number of mother share is unchanged,as the

mother share is the already existing shares in circulation,first bought by the investment bank,and

then transferred to the CDS account of the investor should he/she convert the structured warrant into

mother share,provided that the structured warrant is not cash settle.So,company warrant increase the

capital of the company,where as structured warrant do not change/contribute anything to the

company,only like a betting game where the money from the winners,is paid to the losers,

and therefore is fairly similar to gambling,and therefore is considered haram,
regardless of

whether the mother share is shariah compliance or not.Wallahua'lam.
tu dah hilitekan...tak faham english, bukan salah ibu mengandung...kau ada cds account?

papahal pun thanx to bro lantana...saya pun minat warrant company jer camni...
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byk giler si anak2 nye tuh
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geng2 ngok ni bkn kre pon haram xharam. asal duit je memanjang...
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Old 17-10-2012, 01:08 PM
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geng2 ngok ni bkn kre pon haram xharam. asal duit je memanjang...
ekekekek! kenapa la ramai betul manusia yang jenis tak baca habis nih...

bro, jom tambahkan ilmu pasal saham dan derivative dia... insyaAllah tak kena gelak...
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xde kuar fatwa pun..Main warrant haram? orang ramai taktaw pn. berat sebelah ni?forex haram pulak cian kecoh satu malaysia buat sidang akhbar...lhaha
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nasib baik aku mintak mod pindahkan thread ni kat sini..

kalu kat tmpt asal.. fitnah jer la yg TT buat..

adesssss...

ko ada acc cds.....?????


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