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Old 20-10-2011, 09:59 AM
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Salam...

Jom sembang2 ilmiah secara santai..
Mungkin dah ada topik ni..tapi aku nak bukak jugak..
boleh kan? hehe.

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Adakah anda tahu apakah itu unit trust? What is unit trust ?
Sila Klik Sini or pegi page 5

Adakah anda tahu kita boleh keluarkan duit dari KWSP untuk di laburkan ke dalam unit trust?
YA.. Kita boleh!!!

Pernahkah anda invest unit trust melalui KWSP?

Adakah pendapat anda berkenaan melabur ke dalam unit trust melalui KWSP?

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Old 20-10-2011, 10:12 AM
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Ada orang yang takut untuk invest unit trust melalui kwsp..
walaupon melalui dia invest ke unit trust melalui cash..

sebab apa perkara macam ni terjadi?

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pengeluaran dana KWSP untuk pelaburan unit amanah merupakan 1 peluang yg baik kepada pelabur yang pandai mengambil peluang. tapi kena la fikir masak2 jangan main hentam keromo je.

secara general pulangan unit trust > kwsp. tapi statement general unit amanah profit 10%-15% perlu dielakkan kerana ia amat misleading dan bersifat promotion semata2. kalau anda melabur unit trust sbb ayat tu, baik hentikan, dan labur dalam ASN, ASW etc.

penjelasan:
1. 10%-15% adalah purata, namun x bermakna setiap tahun dapat range tu je. ramai yg salah anggap sbb semua igt mcm asb, average 8%, so tiap2 tahun dpt dlm 7-9%. purata 10% boleh jadi tahun ni -20%, tahun dpn 40%.

2. tang performance tu pulak kita kena tgk sama ada ia adalah real performance or relative performance. contoh:

statement: unit trust average 10% setahun.
kita igt: oo aku invest 10k 2011, 2012 dpt 20%
sebenarnya: tahun 2011 loss -20%, tahun 2012 naik 40%. still average 10%.
kita ingat: ok la, 2012 naik 40% balik. so pelaburan aku 10k x 40% = 14k. untung 4k woo.
sebenarnya:
- labur 10k, 2011 loss -20%. balance = 8k
- 2012 untung 40% = 8k * 40% = 11.2k je..
- nett profit 1.2k utk 2 tahun, rm600 setahun.. dalam 6% p.a.

tu pon kalo x withdraw time drop tu.. huhuhuh...

kita dgr = 10-15%
kita dpt = 6%
kita igt = 14k
kita dpt = 11.2k

so skali lagi, before anda guna duit hari tua anda, better fikir masak2. this option is supposed to assist your retirement, not to assist agent cari makan.


ok frankly, i myself also planning to use my EPF fund (of course with strategy). skrg just waiting for the right time. for me skrg might not be a good time. euro/us crisis. PRU also is coming. something similar with 2008 might happened. but this is my own opinion, no detail research was done. so pls dont use this as your sole justification. just sharing my thought.

tapi bagi sapa2 yg nak utilize fund EPF, cara utk maximize pengeluaran dana adalah 3 month before your next birthday. lps tu setiap 3 bulan buat pengeluaran.

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berapakah pulangan dari kwsp secara purata?

dan berapa pula pulangan dari unit trust yg dilaburkan melalui kwsp secara purata?

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tahukah anda, dari acc manakah duit dari kwsp tersebut akan diambil untuk di invest ke dalam unit trust?
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berapakah pulangan dari kwsp secara purata?

dan berapa pula pulangan dari unit trust yg dilaburkan melalui kwsp secara purata?

Tujuan KWSP ditubuhkan salah satunye adala nak pastikan masa tua nanti ada duit utk truskan kehidupan. Pulangan KWSP rasanye antara 4% ke 6% setahun Tinggi sedikit dari kadar inflasi tapi boleh dikatakan terjamin.
Low risk low return, so utk sesiapa yg ada ilmu dan boleh uruskan pelaburan, mmg la digalakkan gunakan wang KWSP utk pelaburan lain yg diluluskan dan boleh bg pulangan lebih baik. Tapi kena ada ilmu sebab kalo masuk unit trust yg berasaskan equiti investment, masa share market merudum, ia pun merudum gak..Kalo tersangkut masakla..capital boleh depreciate puluhan %, masa tu bond fund lak better...So nak pakai duit KWSP utk unit trust ni, pastikan kena ada ilmu...Jgn main ikut ejen cakap je..
Kalo bole kluarkan duit KWSP utk beli share kat stock market, ini lagilah... high risk, high return..boleh untung banyak kalo berilmu, bole rugi giler2 kalo tak berilmu...
Secara umum, kluarkan duit KWSP, yg confirm OK hanyalah utk masuk unit trust dibawah PNB eg ASW, ASM1M, ASG, ASD etc yg bg pulangan 6-7% better than KWSP pada tahap risiko yg sama..Ini pendapat saya je...TQ
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Tujuan KWSP ditubuhkan salah satunye adala nak pastikan masa tua nanti ada duit utk truskan kehidupan. Pulangan KWSP rasanye antara 4% ke 6% setahun Tinggi sedikit dari kadar inflasi tapi boleh dikatakan terjamin.
Low risk low return, so utk sesiapa yg ada ilmu dan boleh uruskan pelaburan, mmg la digalakkan gunakan wang KWSP utk pelaburan lain yg diluluskan dan boleh bg pulangan lebih baik. Tapi kena ada ilmu sebab kalo masuk unit trust yg berasaskan equiti investment, masa share market merudum, ia pun merudum gak..Kalo tersangkut masakla..capital boleh depreciate puluhan %, masa tu bond fund lak better...So nak pakai duit KWSP utk unit trust ni, pastikan kena ada ilmu...Jgn main ikut ejen cakap je..
Kalo bole kluarkan duit KWSP utk beli share kat stock market, ini lagilah... high risk, high return..boleh untung banyak kalo berilmu, bole rugi giler2 kalo tak berilmu...
Secara umum, kluarkan duit KWSP, yg confirm OK hanyalah utk masuk unit trust dibawah PNB eg ASW, ASM1M, ASG, ASD etc yg bg pulangan 6-7% better than KWSP pada tahap risiko yg sama..Ini pendapat saya je...TQ

Terima kasih kepada abg wan kerana memberikan pendapat..





ada pon org komen..ingtkn aku sembang sorang2 jek tadi.. hehe
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berapa kali seseorang tu boleh invest ke dalam unit trust melalui kwsp?
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tahukah anda kelayakan untuk seseorang itu invest unit trust melalui kwsp?
mohon penyuluhan dari tuan..saya newbie dan berminat nk tau ni ..
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mohon penyuluhan dari tuan..saya newbie dan berminat nk tau ni ..
kelayakan memohon adalah bergantung kepada umur dan juga jumlah simpanan di dalam acc 1 kwsp...

jadual untuk umur dan nilai simpanan asas adalah seperti di bawah :

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