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View Poll Results: Saya menyimpan ASB melalui :
Pinjaman dari bank 93 24.54%
Simpanan sendiri 156 41.16%
Simpanan sendiri & pinjaman dari bank 130 34.30%
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simpan sendiri lebih untung
sbb yg kita simpan tu boleh kuarkan bila2 masa
klu loan mana boleh
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saya wat ASB loan sbb xde sdisiplin heeh xbb tau dah kalau simpan sendiri kejap2 tangguh nak guna tempat lain

kalau dah loan confirm wajib bayar xleh miss2 hehe
kalo dah buat loan...duit lebih tu leh sumbat tabung haji plak
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Kalau hendak pelaburan lebih elok gunakan duit dari hasil titik peluh sendiri; gaji/bisnes..... lagipon kalau buat loan kene bayar interest... interest tu riba.. riba kan haram... kalo bnyk duit tp tk berkat pun taleh jugak....
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Kalau hendak pelaburan lebih elok gunakan duit dari hasil titik peluh sendiri; gaji/bisnes..... lagipon kalau buat loan kene bayar interest... interest tu riba.. riba kan haram... kalo bnyk duit tp tk berkat pun taleh jugak....
Di maybank kita ada pembiyaan islamic berdasarkan prinsip Bay’Al-Inah (sales with immediate repurchase)yang halal disisi islam dan bknnya spt loan konvensional yg mengandungi riba'...
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Di maybank kita ada pembiyaan islamic berdasarkan prinsip Bay’Al-Inah (sales with immediate repurchase)yang halal disisi islam dan bknnya spt loan konvensional yg mengandungi riba'...
boleh tolong jelaskan lebih lanjut tak tuan?
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boleh tolong jelaskan lebih lanjut tak tuan?
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Seorang pembaca, dengan nick idris memberikan komen:

BANK ISLAM TU LOAN DIE HALAL KER??? Aritu mase nak beli kereta..pi tanye BANK ISLAM (BIMB), die kate interest rate =4 %, tanye BANK RAKYAT seblah 3.9%…kire same lah so dimanekah status kehalalannyer??.. hanya kerana ade panel syariah 4% tuh halal???- just like that???

1. Ini adalah persoalan biasa yang selalu bermain dalam pemikiran pengguna. Perbezaan bank riba vs bank Islam.

2. Seharusnya persoalan ini boleh dijawab oleh semua pegawai yang bertugas di mana-mana perbankan Islam. Tetapi malangnya ia tidak selalu berlaku. Ramai pegawai perbankan Islam sendiri tidak tahu bagaimana proses shariah di sebalik produk pembiayaan di bank masing-masing. Ini adalah satu situasi yang menyedihkan. Sekiranya pegawai sendiri ramai tidak tahu, bagaimana pengguna boleh menjadi lebih tahu ?

3. Perbankan Islam tidak memberikan sebarang bentuk pinjaman (loan / qard). Proses pembiayaan peribadi misalnya dibuat menerusi kontrak jual beli yang menghasilkan hutang (debt / dayn) seperti bai al-inah dan juga tawarruq. Hutang yang dihasilkan bukan dari kontrak pinjaman tetapi kontrak jual beli.

4. Komen di atas adalah persoalan mendapatkan pembiayan pembelian kereta. Majoriti bank Islam di Malaysia menggunakan kontrak sewa dan kemudian beli atau dalam istilah Arab, ijarah thumma al-bay’ (AITAB) dan ada juga yang menggunakan BBA. Menerusi AITAB, bank adalah pemilik kereta dan pelanggan bank menyewa dari bank dan di penghujung tempoh sewaan, akan disusuli kontrak pembelian.

5. Sekiranya pegawai itu menyebut “interest rate” maka pegawai itu sendiri sebenarnya tidak faham. Dan sekiranya pegawai menyebut “profit rate” dan pengguna menyangka ia adalah “interest rate”, maka pengguna yang tidak faham.

6. Produk pembiayaan kereta misalnya, panel shariah berperanan memastikan struktur produk pembiayaan itu menepati syarat sewa beli dalam Islam dan pegawai shariah pula perlu memastikan pegawai lain mengikut sepenuhnya prosedur yang telah ditetapkan oleh panel shariah. Seperti mana yang telah saya sebut sebelum ini, fasa seterusnya dalam industri perbankan Islam adalah pembentukan satu mekanisma yang memastikan sekiranya berlaku pelanggaran prosedur shariah yang penting, bank wajib mengisytiharkan pendapatan yang diterima adalah satu pendapatan yang tidak halal justeru ia perlu dimasukkan dalam tabung kebajikan.
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Gunakan pelbagai cara utk memaksimakan keuntungan pelaburan ASB..mulakan dengan saving sendiri, then guna tools ODASB seterusnya utilize secara OPM via Loan ASB smd Rhb,Cimb & MBB.

Setiap cara ada kebaikan/keburukan yg berbeza2 yg perlu kita fahami sblm betul2 nak lakukannya. Bgmna cantiknya pengiraan sdr utk buktikan yg mana lebih untung; apabila kita dah komit sesuatu kaedah perlu dipantau secara cermat seperti kenaikan BLR/penurunan Div serta keperluan simpanan rezab utk contingency plan. Fokus kpd matlamat juga penting bagi memastikan ianya dpt dicapai kerna byk pelabur gagal capai optimum kerna terpengaruh dgn SCK.
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ai' al 'inah (sale and buy-back agreement)

Bai' al inah is a financing facility with the underlying buy and sell transactions between the financier and the customer. The financier buys an asset from the customer on spot basis. The price paid by the financier constitutes the disbursement under the facility. Subsequently the asset is sold to the customer on a deferred-payment basis and the price is payable in instalments. The second sale serves to create the obligation on the part of the customer under the facility. There are differences of opinion amongst the scholars on the permissibility of Bai' al 'inah, however this is practised in Malaysia and the like jurisdictions.[31][32]
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Konsep perbankan Islam ni konsep ambil untung dengan jadi orang tengah.
Sebab bank ada duit, bank beli dulu. Kemudian jual pada pembeli dengan harga lebih tinggi. Lebihan tu untung pada bank. so ini bukan riba'.contoh..
harga kereta ini 50k.anda kena bayar 50% lebih tinggi drpd harga asal.
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simpanan sendiri pon bagus....loan asb pon bagus....
kalo leh buat loan yg interest rendah dr asb loan lg bagus...hehhehe...
margin keuntungan lebih tinggi kalo int rendah......

simpan sendiri 900X12=10,800
kata la div 7% X 10800 = 756

asb loan 200,000 blnn 1130 (setahun dlm 14k)
div thn pertama 200K X 7% = 14,000 - dah lepas byr loan utk tahun seterusnya.....

cam yg bro antudegil kira utk kes saya kat thread sebelah selepas 5tahun duit yg terkumpul (prinsipal+dividen=RM44K) modal mula rm14k je iaitu byrn loan utk tahun pertama....dah jadik passive income tu bro....

otai2 tolong betulkan kalo salah ye.....bdk baru nak faham sket2 ttg ASB Loan nie.....ehhehehhehehhe
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