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abahmu
27-03-2008, 01:51 AM
:)) :)) :)) :)) :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

mynor5535101
27-03-2008, 08:14 AM
benda ni boleh jadi betul, boleh jadi tidak..

kalau betul pun, ia tidak mustahil sebab manusia ini memang diciptakan memang hebat..


Di Zaman Nabi Sulaiman. seorang hamba Allah telah menawarkan untuk memindahkan Istana Ratu Balqis kepada Baginda sebelum mata baginda berkelip.Keupayaan manusia itu lebih hebat dari Jin Nabi Sulaiman.Perkara ini telah diterangkan oleh Allah dalam Alquran.
Persolannya teknologi apa yang di guna hamba Allah tersebut?.Ini menunjukan umat di zaman Nabi Sulaiman mempunyai teknologi yang hebat untuk memindahkan objek dari satu tempat ke satu tempat.
kepuyaan manusia sekarang hanya boleh pindahkan data sahaja

wheriz
27-03-2008, 08:26 AM
pasal .
bila diceritakan us TELAH KE BINTANG JARAKNYA DARI BUMI 35juta TAHUN CAHAYA sebelum ada jentera yg berjaya mencecah kelajuan cahaya, sapa nak terima.
lojik lah kalau negara lain dapat ke marikh dan us pula citer dorang dah kebintang JARAKNYA DARI BUMI 35juta TAHUN CAHAYA. masuk la ke akal walaupun sikit.

Haa inilah pointnya. US adalah negara yg selalu buat kacau dan suka buat propaganda. Supaya dia kelihatan hebat, lebih hebat dari yg sepatutnya. Dan negara2 lain tunduk. MMg ada projek2 rahsia ketenteraan diorg tapi berpijak dibumi yang nyatalah... Spt yang dihighlightkan.

Microwave
27-03-2008, 11:59 AM
So.. mane p tuan tanah yer.. nak jugak dgr komen dia.. :)

Microwave
27-03-2008, 12:00 PM
Di Zaman Nabi Sulaiman. seorang hamba Allah telah menawarkan untuk memindahkan Istana Ratu Balqis kepada Baginda sebelum mata baginda berkelip.Keupayaan manusia itu lebih hebat dari Jin Nabi Sulaiman.Perkara ini telah diterangkan oleh Allah dalam Alquran.
Persolannya teknologi apa yang di guna hamba Allah tersebut?.Ini menunjukan umat di zaman Nabi Sulaiman mempunyai teknologi yang hebat untuk memindahkan objek dari satu tempat ke satu tempat.
kepuyaan manusia sekarang hanya boleh pindahkan data sahaja
Bro, percaya kah bro,suatu hari nanti perkara ini berlaku, yang mana ianya mampu dilakukan oleh manusia dizaman ini. :)

terima kasih

Microwave
27-03-2008, 12:04 PM
Alien Engineering tu sebab ada gambar2 pelik2. pehtu dgn anggapan pada masa tu tak ada teknoloji dan tak cukup buruh.
mungkin kerja jin. gambar2 tu mungkin saja gambar jin. pasti teori jin ni ditolak oleh saintis us. jadi untuk lebih masuk akal, mereka kaitkan dgn alien. lebih praktikal.
nak kait kan cerita tu dengan tajuk AMERIKA TELAH KE BINTANG JARAKNYA DARI BUMI 35juta TAHUN CAHAYA, takleh masuk rasanya.

mmg gambar pelik² bro.. semua asas sesuatu rekacipta memerlukan gambaran dan idea terlebih dahulu sebelum kita merekakannya. so.. base pada cerita kita kepercayaan maupon tidak percaya, cerita balik pada perkara yg dahulunya tiada tetapi zaman sekrang ada :). manala tau.. 10-20thn nanti ade lagi menda pelik akan terjadi. skrang ni saya dah nampak byk menda pelik dah ade kat dunia ni sedangkan saya mase kecik pon xda. :) mari kita fikirkan. dan tuan tanah pulak relatekan dgn sejauh mane pemikiran org islam berfikir dgn sejarah ketamadunan islam. :)

lanbai
27-03-2008, 12:06 PM
Mmm.....ada Sesiapa Percaya?~x(
kartun kut.pacaya lah jgk.. !! :eek:

mynor5535101
27-03-2008, 12:40 PM
Bro, percaya kah bro,suatu hari nanti perkara ini berlaku, yang mana ianya mampu dilakukan oleh manusia dizaman ini. :)

terima kasih
Kisah pindah Istana Ratu Balqis oleh Hamba Allah sebelum mata berkelip telah di sebut dalam Quran. Jadi WAJIB percaya.Cuma kita tak tahu teknologi apa yang di gunakan .Mungkin dalam abad akan datang manusia akan memperolehi teknologi tersebut.Cuma pada zaman ini saintis hanya berjaya memindahkan Atom dari satu tempat ke tempat yang lain.Ujian ini di lakukan oleh NASA.

Microwave
27-03-2008, 12:44 PM
Kisah pindah Istana Ratu Balqis oleh Hamba Allah sebelum mata berkelip telah di sebut dalam Quran. Jadi WAJIB percaya.Cuma kita tak tahu teknologi apa yang di gunakan .Mungkin dalam abad akan datang manusia akan memperolehi teknologi tersebut

so, kesimpulannya tiada yg mustahil kan. :)

p.s: semua invention berdasarkan angan² maupon hanyalan dan disertakan dengan usaha, dan seterusnya hingga perkara terebut menjadi nyata. (Dgn kuasaNya sahaja ia akan menjadi tersebut akan jadi nyata)

profesor
27-03-2008, 01:07 PM
Ada jugak org percaya ke?? pening2.. :o

mj12
27-03-2008, 02:25 PM
Ok bagi satu lagi benda simple yer.. Komputer yg anda gunakan sekrang. Internet yg anda gunakan sekrang.. dulu org tidak mempercayai kita dapat berhubung org dari tempat lain dgn hanya duduk di tempat yg lain dengn individu tersebut.. kenapa skrang dah boleh? ha. fikirkan yer saudara sekalian. :)

p.s; jika saya menyebut komputer dan internet pada zaman dahulu, mesti org cakap saya ni syaitan dan juga org gila. tetapi bila dah jadi kenyataan baru org nak mempercayainya.. disitu kita boleh nampak ideologi kita hanya berdasarkan input yg dijanakan oleh mata dn telinga saya sahaja.. :)

hehe...bukti paling cannggih abad ini niee...syabas saudara...mmg manusia hanya nampak apa yang depan mereka sahaja..mmg saya x nafi kan....

miXxer
27-03-2008, 02:27 PM
ke bintang den lom caye laie..

ke banting.. leh la kot :))

mj12
27-03-2008, 02:29 PM
letih tul baca.....

opinion aku
memang tak disangkal US punya teknologi yg paling maju....secara asasny ilmu2 itu datangnya dari dunia islam dahulu yg mereka cedok dan kaji dan akhirnya menjadikan mereka lebih berteknolgi disebabkan perkembangan ilmu yg diusahakn...nak cakap lebih bukan pandai sgt..cuma kalau harta kekayaan yg ada dibumi islam dan benteng ummah dikukuhkan dan bersatu...aku percaya islam lebih maju dari kafir laknatullah....dan itu yg mereka takutkan...perang salib akan terus berjalan cuma cara dan kaedahnya shj...

syabas saudara...ini yang kita nak...mengambil balik teknologi kita kembali...kita mesti sama2 ingat Islam agama yang memerintah...BUKAN DIPERINTAH...syabas saudara...sama2 kita bergerak ke arah kecermerlangan Islam seperti zaman Muhammad saw,Umar Al Khattab dan sebagainya..

mj12
27-03-2008, 02:31 PM
So.. mane p tuan tanah yer.. nak jugak dgr komen dia.. :)

ada boss...mcm biasa tgh keje..kang miss soru lak..hehehe:D

irsaffy
27-03-2008, 02:32 PM
ke bintang den lom caye laie..

ke banting.. leh la kot :))

kat K.L pon ada gak bintang..bukit bintang..:p

mj12
27-03-2008, 02:37 PM
so, kesimpulannya tiada yg mustahil kan. :)

p.s: semua invention berdasarkan angan² maupon hanyalan dan disertakan dengan usaha, dan seterusnya hingga perkara terebut menjadi nyata. (Dgn kuasaNya sahaja ia akan menjadi tersebut akan jadi nyata)

bro..cuba tgk youtube pasal tunguska blow..pergghh mmg pelik apa yang meletup zaman tu saintis kata meteor but without any crater..sebab kalau meteor mesti ada crater...kalau x silap early 1900an...

kalau dah tengok apa komen arr...tq

mj12
27-03-2008, 02:38 PM
Ada jugak org percaya ke?? pening2.. :o

:)) :)) :)) .....pening makan panadol...:eek:

mj12
27-03-2008, 02:47 PM
komen terakhir ! :D
orang us tak boleh simpan rahsia. diulang, tak boleh simpan rahsia.

cth, mendarat kebulan. orang us gak yg bongkar pembohongan. siap dgn wawancara dgn bekas saintis angkasa.
pastu, serangan ke iraq. pihak pentagon dan cia sendiri yg pecah lubang. siap dengan bukti gambar setelit yg iraq dah tak ada senjata langsung kecuali senjata ringan.
pastu 9-11. cia jugak yg pecah lubang dimana adik bush dapat projek wiring bangunan tu dgn alasan membaiki sistem komunikasi. padahal, dia pasang bom meruntuh bangunan.

kalau betul us ada ufo, aku gerenti demotape penerbangan mesti terlepas.
kalau ada video ufo di park kat dock, aku caya. dorang memang cuba buat. tapi fail. alasan aku, gambar ufo lepak ada. maknanya maklumat dah bocor.

dan akhir kata, us ni jenis bongkak. kalau dorang berjaya cipta ufo, dorang akan pukul canang seluruh dunia dan gunakan ufo ni untuk serang sapa2 yg mereka suka. itu jenis mereka.
baru ada jet yg laju je dah pukul canang, mereka lah yg terhebat. walhal, jet mig rusia jauh lebih laju hingga peluru berpandu takleh kejar.
aku yakin sangat us gagal bina ufo. bukan mustahil tapi gagal. bukan tak caya, tapi gagal. dgn kata lain, belum berjaya.

kalau benarlah AMERIKA TELAH KE BINTANG JARAKNYA DARI BUMI 35juta TAHUN CAHAYA, aku pasti sangat2 yg us akan mintak semua negara di dunia ni membayar wang perlindungan tiap2 bulan. dan semua negara didunia akan akur membayar tampa bertangguh.
apsal nak rahsiakan.

sekian :D

hehe...saya akan ulas panjang jangan lari dulu..kita main fx nie pun sebahagianya untuk kantung the Elite....berapa mereka nak pakai duit mereka boleh amik sesuka hati...1 trillion?..x cukup amik 2 trillion...hehe....mereka yang mencipta sistem so mereka tau kelemahan dan kekurangan setiap sistem!!...tau kah saudara pihak CIA dapat mendengar perbualan saudara menerusi telepon bimbit saudara walaupun saudara telah off kan tel sauadara??....dan tau kah saudara pihak NSA dapat amibil semua data dari pc saudara menerusi pc saudara?

Microwave
27-03-2008, 03:25 PM
bro..cuba tgk youtube pasal tunguska blow..pergghh mmg pelik apa yang meletup zaman tu saintis kata meteor but without any creator..sebab kalau meteor mesti ada creator...kalau x silap early 1900an...

kalau dah tengok apa komen arr...tq
video tunguska saya dah tgk kalau tak silap saya tahun lepas. menarik jugak isunya. andai kata Islam boleh bangkit dgn Alquran, fuhh betapa hebatnya. Tapi ini adalh ujian oleh Allah S.w.t kepada umatnya agar tidak lupa kepadaNya.

related story yg pengkaji mengatakan US mengunakan Alien teknologi
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Project Arora <--sengaja salah eja. nanti kang ade pulak FB1 masuk sini haha:))

Microwave
27-03-2008, 03:32 PM
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menarik utk kita lihat

AILA2002
27-03-2008, 03:35 PM
....secara asasny ilmu2 itu datangnya dari dunia islam dahulu yg mereka cedok dan kaji dan akhirnya menjadikan mereka lebih berteknolgi disebabkan perkembangan ilmu yg diusahakn...
tok guru aku pernah cakap....barat ambil ilmu islam secara fizikal....tapi bukan secara rohnya...

contoh;
kalau newton kata epal yg jatuh ke bumi ini sebenarnya adalah disebabkan oleh tarikan graviti...
tapi sebenarnya newton ambil hukum nidari kitab islam, yg mana epal yg jatuh itu memang la disebabkan tarikan graviti tetapi semuanya adalah kerana ketetapan Ilahi....

sebab itu la kalau kita tgk tamadun islam yg dulu separti di alhambra jauh lebih hebat dari apa yg ada sekarang....
bayangkan air wuduk boleh keluar dari pacurannya bila masuk waktu.....

kejatuhan islam dalam ilmu ini sebenarnya ialah kerana kita mengkaji hukum berdasarkan acuan barat...tetapi kita dah hilang rohnya.....

profesor
27-03-2008, 03:38 PM
:)) :)) :)) .....pening makan panadol...:eek:

Hehe... seronok2 jugak.. jgn taksub sgt takut lupa diri.. :D

Microwave
27-03-2008, 03:39 PM
3tESHovs4os&watch_response
kaitan berkenaan visual komfomasi. dari posibiliti projek arora

Microwave
27-03-2008, 03:47 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/97/Lockheed_SR-71_Blackbird.jpg/300px-Lockheed_SR-71_Blackbird.jpg
SR-71 "Blackbird"-The SR-71 Blackbird, the aircraft the Aurora supposedly replaced

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/08/Aurora_spyplane_3-view.jpg/300px-Aurora_spyplane_3-view.jpg

Project Auror# (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora_aircraft) <-- klik sini (link berkaitan dari wikipedia )


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f8/TR-3_Black_Manta_by_Adrian_Mann.jpg/300px-TR-3_Black_Manta_by_Adrian_Mann.jpg
TR-3B Black Manta

tujuan kebanyakan US utk membuat kapal terbang Type-X utk dijadikan (spylane)

Microwave
27-03-2008, 04:01 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/75/TriangleBelgium1990.jpg/310px-TriangleBelgium1990.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_triangle_%28UFO%29
Link yang juga ade kaitan dgn isu² ini

Microwave
27-03-2008, 04:25 PM
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B2 Bomber

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Microwave
27-03-2008, 04:59 PM
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tambahan utk tatapan

Microwave
27-03-2008, 05:15 PM
bro..cuba tgk youtube pasal tunguska blow..pergghh mmg pelik apa yang meletup zaman tu saintis kata meteor but without any creator..sebab kalau meteor mesti ada creator...kalau x silap early 1900an...

kalau dah tengok apa komen arr...tq
K9VLUzyB3bE
heheh.. mmg ade yg tersurat dah tersirat.. :)

Klik Disini (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=mysterious+world+tunguska+exp losion&search_type=) <-- berkenaan Letupan di Tungaska 1904 (russia)

mynor5535101
27-03-2008, 05:22 PM
tok guru aku pernah cakap....barat ambil ilmu islam secara fizikal....tapi bukan secara rohnya...

contoh;
kalau newton kata epal yg jatuh ke bumi ini sebenarnya adalah disebabkan oleh tarikan graviti...
tapi sebenarnya newton ambil hukum nidari kitab islam, yg mana epal yg jatuh itu memang la disebabkan tarikan graviti tetapi semuanya adalah kerana ketetapan Ilahi....

sebab itu la kalau kita tgk tamadun islam yg dulu separti di alhambra jauh lebih hebat dari apa yg ada sekarang....
bayangkan air wuduk boleh keluar dari pacurannya bila masuk waktu.....

kejatuhan islam dalam ilmu ini sebenarnya ialah kerana kita mengkaji hukum berdasarkan acuan barat...tetapi kita dah hilang rohnya.....

Memang semua itu ketatapan ilahi. tapi kita kena kaji macam mana Allah aturkan hukum graviti tersebut

mj12
27-03-2008, 07:18 PM
Bagus penerangan saudara tentang daya2 utama dalam asas penerbangan. Cuma aku nak betulkan sikit je yang dihighlightkan tu...

Sekiranya daya seret menjadi lebih besar dari daya tujah...maka pesawat akan bergerak kebalakang...(selalunya dipanggil tujahan kebelakang).


Aku rasa lebih baik kita bincangkan perkara-perkara asas dulu sebelum membawa semua forumer ke perkara yang lebih berat dan seterusnya mempercayai Propaganda US.

Saudara,

Rasa saya…..saya perlu perjelaskan dalam bahasa English….sebab saya sudah terangkan di dalam Bahasa Malaysia yang mudah saudara tidak memahami nya..!

“…. Well…we look at this point…the thrust must be greater than drag, (even during the plane take-off)....when thrust is greater than drag the airplane speed definitely increases. So when we wants to maintains the plane speed the thrust and drag must be equal.So..we back to the drag factor…if the drag is greater than thrust, the plane slows down…the plane DEFINITELY WOULD NOT GO TO REVERSE MODE!!....”

SAYA NAK TANYA SEMUA FORUMER LAH…PERNAH KE SESIAPA TENGOK KAPAL TERBANG(PESAWAT) TENGAH TERBANG KE ARAH DEPAN TETIBA DIA BOLEH REVERSE?...PERNAH TAK SESIAPA KAT FORUM DI SINI?

ADA GEAR REVERSE KE KAPAL TERBANG(PESAWAT)???:)

SO KALAU KAPAL TERBANG(PESAWAT) AKAN "BERGERAK KE BELAKANG" KAPAL TERBANG(PESAWAT) KENA ADA SIDE MIRROR LAH SEBAB NAK TENGOK KE BELAKANG??!!:)

Pelik gak saya…apa yang saudara ingin betulkan tentang explaination saya di atas??...

Saya rasa saudaralah patut meng’google’ kan pencarian saudara tentang asas pernerbangan,,malu saya dengan forumer yang lain2…kami sedang berbincang tentang ‘interplanetery travel’ adakah ianya possible…dan saudara mau saya terangkan tentang asas penerbangan??!!!!.....Itu yang saya tersenyum bila bukak comment saudara yang sebelum2 nie…dan saya menyatakan bahawa saya tidak mau komen apa2…sebab saya tidak mau ianya berpanjangan..saya sudah memberi satu hint pada saudara secara terang…tapi mungkin saudara tidak dapat memahami maksud saya….

Saya pohon berbanyak kemaafan sekiranya sebarang kata2 saya ada melukakan hati saudara.

“Jika mereka mendustaka kamu, maka katakanlah:":Bagiku pekerjaanku dan bagimu pekerjaanmu. Kamu berlepas diri terhadap apa yang aku kerjakan dan aku berlepas diri terhadap apa yang kamu kerjakan"..

(YUUNUS:41)

Yang baik itu datang dari Allah yang lemah itu datang dari saya sendiri

mj12
27-03-2008, 07:26 PM
Memang semua itu ketatapan ilahi. tapi kita kena kaji macam mana Allah aturkan hukum graviti tersebut

Allah Maha Besar....

mj12
27-03-2008, 07:28 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/97/Lockheed_SR-71_Blackbird.jpg/300px-Lockheed_SR-71_Blackbird.jpg


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/08/Aurora_spyplane_3-view.jpg/300px-Aurora_spyplane_3-view.jpg

Project Auror# (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora_aircraft) <-- klik sini (link berkaitan dari wikipedia )


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f8/TR-3_Black_Manta_by_Adrian_Mann.jpg/300px-TR-3_Black_Manta_by_Adrian_Mann.jpg
TR-3B Black Manta

tujuan kebanyakan US utk membuat kapal terbang Type-X utk dijadikan (spylane)

ada articel pernah saya terbaca spy plane Aurora yang ganti kan SR-71 Blackbird nie leh gi sampai Mach7...

Microwave
27-03-2008, 07:29 PM
ada articel pernah saya terbaca spy plane yang ganti kan SR-71 Blackbird nie leh gi sampai Mach7...
Mach7 ek.. tu la project aurora bukan?? :-? tapi x pasti la saya..

mj12
27-03-2008, 07:35 PM
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heheh.. mmg ade yg tersurat dah tersirat.. :)

rasanya apa yang meletup tu bro??...kekuatan blast dia sebesar 15 megaton dan menyebabkan gempa pada skala ritcher 5.0...dan cover area sebesar 2,500 km persegi!!...rasanya tahun 1900'an teknologi atomic dan nuclear belum ada lg pada zaman tu...banyak yang tersirat....

mj12
27-03-2008, 07:37 PM
Mach7 ek.. tu la project aurora bukan?? :-? tapi x pasti la saya..

ha..project aurora...bro jom kita curi satu jom...pakai teknologi 'avatar microwave' bro tu..:)

kuhik
27-03-2008, 07:40 PM
benda ni tak mustahil pun..

mynor5535101
27-03-2008, 07:43 PM
Allah Maha Besar....

Peneragan ayat quran menganai Astro Physic www.speed-light.info

Microwave
27-03-2008, 07:54 PM
ha..project aurora...bro jom kita curi satu jom...pakai teknologi 'avatar microwave' bro tu..:)
skrang ni US sedang mengkajian kuasa Anti Matter, cuba kita fikirkan kuasanya amat kuat berkali² ganda dari kuasa nuklear

cuba peratikan video ini.

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mynor5535101
27-03-2008, 08:07 PM
skrang ni US sedang mengkajian kuasa Anti Matter, cuba kita fikirkan kuasanya amat kuat berkali² ganda dari kuasa nuklear

cuba peratikan video ini.

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possibly only a few decades away from developing an antimatter spacecraft that would cut fuel costs to a fraction of what they are today. In October 2000, NASA scientists announced early designs for an antimatter engine that could generate enormous thrust with only small amounts of antimatter fueling it. The amount of antimatter needed to supply the engine for a one-year trip to Mars could be as little as a millionth of a gram, according to a report in that month's issue of Journal of Propulsion and Power.

Matter-antimatter propulsion will be the most efficient propulsion ever developed, because 100 percent of the mass of the matter and antimatter is converted into energy. When matter and antimatter collide, the energy released by their annihilation releases about 10 billion times the energy that chemical energy such as hydrogen and oxygen combustion, the kind used by the space shuttle, releases. Matter-antimatter reactions are 1,000 times more powerful than the nuclear fission produced in nuclear power plants and 300 times more powerful than nuclear fusion energy.

Microwave
27-03-2008, 08:13 PM
So.. saya rase menda ni semua tidak mustahil la.. cuma pandangan mata kita je yg perlu dipuaskan bukanya pandangan dari segi akal fikiran. :)

Microwave
27-03-2008, 08:17 PM
Cuba cari berkenaan lazer yg bertujuan utk menepis serangan Roket. cuba kita fikirkan dulu.. dulu saya nampak lazer ni hanyala mainan kartun dan juga wayang pada mase saya kecik.. skrang ni saya nampak ia telah menjadi nyata. skrang ni belum ade lagi pistol lazer yg yg senang dibawa. Cuba saudara² yg lain fikirkan jika Anti-Matter yg saya sebutkan tadi menjadi senang utk di perolehi.. ape akan jadi kat dunia? cuba libatkan faktor kuasa peperangan.. ermm.. dasyatkan.. sama² la kita fikirkan.
Era Peperanngan Kosmik(senjata) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_Era_Superweapons)<-- try klik sini

p.s: persoalan manusia dapat pergi ke bintang yg berjuta² tahun? adakah dgn terciptanya propulsion device dapat menyekat batu-batan di angkasa lepas merempuh pesawat terjawab?

profesor
27-03-2008, 08:23 PM
Adakah dgn wujudnya kapal terbang yg ditunjukkan dlm gambar tu, US leh sampai ke bintang pada masa sekarang? soalan yg sama merujuk pada tajuk thread.. :-?

Microwave
27-03-2008, 08:27 PM
Adakah dgn wujudnya kapal terbang yg ditunjukkan dlm gambar tu, US leh sampai ke bintang pada masa sekarang? soalan yg sama merujuk pada tajuk thread.. :-?
itu la persoalan kita, percaya atau pon tidak sahaja. :)

Microwave
27-03-2008, 08:32 PM
possibly only a few decades away from developing an antimatter spacecraft that would cut fuel costs to a fraction of what they are today. In October 2000, NASA scientists announced early designs for an antimatter engine that could generate enormous thrust with only small amounts of antimatter fueling it. The amount of antimatter needed to supply the engine for a one-year trip to Mars could be as little as a millionth of a gram, according to a report in that month's issue of Journal of Propulsion and Power.

Matter-antimatter propulsion will be the most efficient propulsion ever developed, because 100 percent of the mass of the matter and antimatter is converted into energy. When matter and antimatter collide, the energy released by their annihilation releases about 10 billion times the energy that chemical energy such as hydrogen and oxygen combustion, the kind used by the space shuttle, releases. "Matter-antimatter reactions are 1,000 times more powerful than the nuclear fission produced in nuclear power plants and 300 times more powerful than nuclear fusion energy".
cuba kita baca balik kenyataan yg disampaikan oleh bro mynor5535101

mansurgilerduit
27-03-2008, 08:32 PM
tapi pendapat aku la kan. kalo betul US bole mengexplore pelbagai destinasi bintang, dah tentu NASA xde problem nak launch roket.

Maksudnya, dah ada teknologi yg solid atau mostly perfect utk teknologi aeroangkasa. Skrg ni mcm ISS pun kena kerjasama dgn seme negara maju utk kurangkan kos dan risk lepas kes ISS US pertama SkyLab gagal.

korang bleh tgk kat sini list malapetaka melibatkan explorasi angkasa sepanjang masa:

http://www.rense.com/general34/did.htm

Aku bukan skeptikal pun, cuma ada kalanya US ni kan terkenal ske buat propaganda mengarut... jadi boleh diragui. hehehe

kalo betul pun derang dah ada teknologi semaju itu, bagus la. Asalkan baik utk umat manusia takpe la. Jgn jadi star wars dah la.

Microwave
27-03-2008, 08:35 PM
tapi pendapat aku la kan. kalo betul US bole mengexplore pelbagai destinasi bintang, dah tentu NASA xde problem nak launch roket.

Maksudnya, dah ada teknologi yg solid atau mostly perfect utk teknologi aeroangkasa. Skrg ni mcm ISS pun kena kerjasama dgn seme negara maju utk kurangkan kos dan risk lepas kes ISS US pertama SkyLab gagal.

korang bleh tgk kat sini list malapetaka melibatkan explorasi angkasa sepanjang masa:

http://www.rense.com/general34/did.htm

Aku bukan skeptikal pun, cuma ada kalanya US ni kan terkenal ske buat propaganda mengarut... jadi boleh diragui. hehehe

kalo betul pun derang dah ada teknologi semaju itu, bagus la. Asalkan baik utk umat manusia takpe la. Jgn jadi star wars dah la.
pendapat yang baik.. cuba kita fikirkan dgn perperangan agama kelak? ade kita fikirkan hal ini? :)

p.s: maafkan saya jika memberi soalan yg **** dgn diri saya ni masih lagi beringus:">

profesor
27-03-2008, 08:41 PM
Tidak dinafikan kemampuan manusia utk mencipta sesuatu yg canggih spt kewujudan kapal terbang pada masa sekarang berbanding dgn zaman batu dulu. Dan kemungkinan manusia menjelajah angkasa lepas ke arah lebih jauh juga tidak dinafikan. Tetapi persoalannya, merujuk pada tajuk thread yg menyatakan bahawa US sudah pun menjelajah ke bintang pada masa sekarang masih diragui kesahihannya berikutan belum ada fakta rasmi yg menyatakan kejayaan tersebut? Sorry, ilmu gue masih cetek..

Microwave
27-03-2008, 08:47 PM
Tidak dinafikan kemampuan manusia utk mencipta sesuatu yg canggih spt kewujudan kapal terbang pada masa sekarang berbanding dgn zaman batu dulu. Dan kemungkinan manusia menjelajah angkasa lepas ke arah lebih jauh juga tidak dinafikan. Tetapi persoalannya, merujuk pada tajuk thread yg menyatakan bahawa US sudah pun menjelajah ke bintang pada masa sekarang masih diragui kesahihannya berikutan belum ada fakta rasmi yg menyatakan kejayaan tersebut? Sorry, ilmu gue masih cetek..
persoalan mcm ni Prof, x layak saya jawab. tunggu tuan tanah bersuara. saya cuma nak bagi org buka mata sahaja.. munkin ape maklumat yg saya sebarkan kat sini ade yg faham dan ade yg meragui, sbb manusia ini hanya percaya dgn perkara yg DIGAMBARKAN oleh penglihatan.

bird
27-03-2008, 08:52 PM
manusia dijadikan khalifah muka bumi. so bumila tempatnya.
teknologi manusia dah mampu ke bintang ker???? nak ikut :)

"We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects and it would take an act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity.... Anything you can imagine, we already know how to do."....ini apa Ben Rich kata.....ala dia nie former Head of the Lockheed Skunk Works..yang buat F117 Stealth tu laa...kata2 nie dia kata sebelum dia mati kena kanser...dia tau dah nak mati then dia cakap macam nie..ye lah..kalau org dah tau nak mati sebab2 penyakit tertentu mesti segala rahsia dia akan citer kan..

Ben Rich, former Head of the Lockheed Skunk Works, in a lecture shortly before he died

mynor5535101
27-03-2008, 08:54 PM
tapi pendapat aku la kan. kalo betul US bole mengexplore pelbagai destinasi bintang, dah tentu NASA xde problem nak launch roket.

Maksudnya, dah ada teknologi yg solid atau mostly perfect utk teknologi aeroangkasa. Skrg ni mcm ISS pun kena kerjasama dgn seme negara maju utk kurangkan kos dan risk lepas kes ISS US pertama SkyLab gagal.

korang bleh tgk kat sini list malapetaka melibatkan explorasi angkasa sepanjang masa:

http://www.rense.com/general34/did.htm

Aku bukan skeptikal pun, cuma ada kalanya US ni kan terkenal ske buat propaganda mengarut... jadi boleh diragui. hehehe

kalo betul pun derang dah ada teknologi semaju itu, bagus la. Asalkan baik utk umat manusia takpe la. Jgn jadi star wars dah la.

Propulsion akan datang bukan mengunakan chemical rocket lagi.Jadi pesawat akan datang akn mengunakan sedikit bahan api dan mungkin tiada bahan api langsung.Kajian kearah magnetic propulsion dan anti gravity propulsion sedang rancak berjalan sekarang.

profesor
27-03-2008, 08:55 PM
TQ Microwave krn byk tolong tuan rumah :D

Microwave
27-03-2008, 09:03 PM
TQ Microwave krn byk tolong tuan rumah :D
saya bagi pendapat ape yg saya tau je Prof.. xda belaja mane² pon pasal hal ni.. dulu² rajin duk surf internet. minat dgn UFO mase kecik² dulu. so hobi saya utk cari menda ni.. selalu baca info pasal menda² canggih contohnya kapal terbang dan paling minat huhuhuhu Comanche mcm ni. :D
http://archiwum.wiz.pl/images/duze/1998/03/98032104.JPG

profesor
27-03-2008, 09:20 PM
saya bagi pendapat ape yg saya tau je Prof.. xda belaja mane² pon pasal hal ni.. dulu² rajin duk surf internet. minat dgn UFO mase kecik² dulu. so hobi saya utk cari menda ni.. selalu baca info pasal menda² canggih contohnya kapal terbang dan paling minat huhuhuhu Comanche mcm ni. :D
http://archiwum.wiz.pl/images/duze/1998/03/98032104.JPG

Hehe.. yg ni model baru kan? guna teknology stealh lut radar.. :-? yg model lama ditembak jatuh oleh petani guna rocket launcher kat Iraq dulu.. :p

mansurgilerduit
27-03-2008, 10:52 PM
hehehe... chopter tu memang stealth lut radar. tapi kalo petani tu nampak lagi, mau ditembaknya lagi... hihihi

mynor5535101
27-03-2008, 11:15 PM
Cuba cari berkenaan lazer yg bertujuan utk menepis serangan Roket. cuba kita fikirkan dulu.. dulu saya nampak lazer ni hanyala mainan kartun dan juga wayang pada mase saya kecik.. skrang ni saya nampak ia telah menjadi nyata. skrang ni belum ade lagi pistol lazer yg yg senang dibawa. Cuba saudara² yg lain fikirkan jika Anti-Matter yg saya sebutkan tadi menjadi senang utk di perolehi.. ape akan jadi kat dunia? cuba libatkan faktor kuasa peperangan.. ermm.. dasyatkan.. sama² la kita fikirkan.
Era Peperanngan Kosmik(senjata) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_Era_Superweapons)<-- try klik sini

p.s: persoalan manusia dapat pergi ke bintang yg berjuta² tahun? adakah dgn terciptanya propulsion device dapat menyekat batu-batan di angkasa lepas merempuh pesawat terjawab?

Beam Weapom US dah ada dah.Ia digunakan. Gunanya untuk tembak pesawat atau peluru berpandu.Apbila di tembak pada pesawat atau peluru berpandu, perlatan electronik di kapal terbang akan rosak dan kapal terbang akan terhempas

wheriz
27-03-2008, 11:25 PM
Persoalan yang lain timbul.

Adakah UFO benar2 wujud? Ada pro dan contra. Dulu pun aku minat pasal UFO ni tapi banyak keraguan mengenainya, Tapi kewujudan nya ada kemungkinan. ada beberapa peristiwa yang belum terjawab tapi ada yang dah terjawab. Di beritakan bhw peristiwa area 51 di mana gambarnya tersiar di internet ( bedah siasat makhluk asing) setelah dikaji dari teknikalnya sudut cahaya dalam gambar itu dan beberapa faktor lagi menunjukkan ia adalah 'hoax'. Tetapi peristiwa di pendalaman Russia, di siberia Tunguska masih menjadi misteri yang tak terungkai lagi. Crop circles suatu hoax. Ada orang yang buat benda tu , biasa la mat saleh gila2 ( keluar dalam National Geographic).

Ada juga buku yang aku baca, karangan dari kalangan org Islam mendakwa UFO adalah dari golongan jin, Jin dah hidup beratus2 tahun so teknologi diorang pun berkali ganda lebih hebat dari kita. sesekali dia muncul dgn menampakkan dirinya bersama pesawat2 diorg. UFO ni ada definisi dia kalau tak ia bukan UFO, contohnya ia bergerak laju tapi boleh bertukar haluan sekelip mata, susah nak cakap. Ia boleh bergerak dalam zig zag, atau boleh berpatah arah dalam sudut 90 darjah. Ikut apa yang aku pernah terbaca la.

Adakah US telah menguasai teknologi UFO, pada aku tidak, teknologi2 yang ada pada jet/pesawat diaorag adalah dari usaha diorg sendiri. Jiak mereka telah menguasai teknologi UFO( yang belum tentu wujud) sudah tentu mrk telah mejelajah angkasa dgn tidak bersusah payah melancarkan roket keangkasa spt yang di buat NASA skrg. Dan jika diorg dah ada teknologi tu rahsia takkan tersimpan lama. akan diketahui oleh negara2 lain juga spt russia, china dana lain2. Akan diketahui umum juga.

Berbalik kpada topik, perkataan Telah? tidak mungkin telah atau sekarang ini.

Aku nak tgk bukti2 yang menyokong topik ini, setakat ini tiada. Jika tiada maka tak yah percaya.

Percayalah negara USA ni mempunyai agenda, dan propaganda. MMglah dia ada pesawat terbang yang berteknologi tinggi dan project ketenteraan yang org lain jauh kebelakang lagi, tapi dia juga cakap besar, lebih besar dari kehebatan yang dia ada. Dia juga suka berbohong.

Contohnya semasa nak serang Iraq di canangnya Iraq tgh develop nuklear, ada WMD ( nweapon of mass destruction. boleh mengancam negara2 tertentu di dunia. Padahal kawan ni baru sembuh dari perang yang sebelumnya, senjata pun pakai recycle yang lama, dah la kena sekatan ekonomi sepanjang masa. Takkan tak nampak pembohongan terbesar US. Semestinya agenda lain tujuan utamanya. Yang aku nampak USA lah yang paling ada WMD dan sedang mengancam keamanan dunia, di masa skrg ni.

mynor5535101
27-03-2008, 11:50 PM
Persoalan yang lain timbul.

Adakah UFO benar2 wujud? Ada pro dan contra. Dulu pun aku minat pasal UFO ni tapi banyak keraguan mengenainya, Tapi kewujudan nya ada kemungkinan. ada beberapa peristiwa yang belum terjawab tapi ada yang dah terjawab. Di beritakan bhw peristiwa area 51 di mana gambarnya tersiar di internet ( bedah siasat makhluk asing) setelah dikaji dari teknikalnya sudut cahaya dalam gambar itu dan beberapa faktor lagi menunjukkan ia adalah 'hoax'. Tetapi peristiwa di pendalaman Russia, di siberia Tunguska masih menjadi misteri yang tak terungkai lagi. Crop circles suatu hoax. Ada orang yang buat benda tu , biasa la mat saleh gila2 ( keluar dalam National Geographic).

Ada juga buku yang aku baca, karangan dari kalangan org Islam mendakwa UFO adalah dari golongan jin, Jin dah hidup beratus2 tahun so teknologi diorang pun berkali ganda lebih hebat dari kita. sesekali dia muncul dgn menampakkan dirinya bersama pesawat2 diorg. UFO ni ada definisi dia kalau tak ia bukan UFO, contohnya ia bergerak laju tapi boleh bertukar haluan sekelip mata, susah nak cakap. Ia boleh bergerak dalam zig zag, atau boleh berpatah arah dalam sudut 90 darjah. Ikut apa yang aku pernah terbaca la.

Adakah US telah menguasai teknologi UFO, pada aku tidak, teknologi2 yang ada pada jet/pesawat diaorag adalah dari usaha diorg sendiri. Jiak mereka telah menguasai teknologi UFO( yang belum tentu wujud) sudah tentu mrk telah mejelajah angkasa dgn tidak bersusah payah melancarkan roket keangkasa spt yang di buat NASA skrg. Dan jika diorg dah ada teknologi tu rahsia takkan tersimpan lama. akan diketahui oleh negara2 lain juga spt russia, china dana lain2. Akan diketahui umum juga.

Berbalik kpada topik, perkataan Telah? tidak mungkin telah atau sekarang ini.

Aku nak tgk bukti2 yang menyokong topik ini, setakat ini tiada. Jika tiada maka tak yah percaya.

Percayalah negara USA ni mempunyai agenda, dan propaganda. MMglah dia ada pesawat terbang yang berteknologi tinggi dan project ketenteraan yang org lain jauh kebelakang lagi, tapi dia juga cakap besar, lebih besar dari kehebatan yang dia ada. Dia juga suka berbohong.

Contohnya semasa nak serang Iraq di canangnya Iraq tgh develop nuklear, ada WMD ( nweapon of mass destruction. boleh mengancam negara2 tertentu di dunia. Padahal kawan ni baru sembuh dari perang yang sebelumnya, senjata pun pakai recycle yang lama, dah la kena sekatan ekonomi sepanjang masa. Takkan tak nampak pembohongan terbesar US. Semestinya agenda lain tujuan utamanya. Yang aku nampak USA lah yang paling ada WMD dan sedang mengancam keamanan dunia, di masa skrg ni.

Andaikata mereka mempunyai teknologi tersebut mereka akan nafikan.meraka akan nafikan kerana mereka tak nak negara lain tahu dan bersaingan mencuri teknologi mereka.Tujuan mereka ialah untuk menguasai dan menjadi kuasa tunggal di dunia ini.

mj12
27-03-2008, 11:57 PM
ybftpjNHXUQ

Nie video kat World Trade…

Cuba tengok secara slow motion pada saat 21.5 perghh near “dia” hit heli tu...sapa2 yang “maneuver” this thing mmg tahap ‘kurang ajar’…..hehe…..agak2 apa benda tu haa??...

Teknologi apa dia pakai?...anyone here can x-plain?

mj12
27-03-2008, 11:59 PM
Andaikata mereka mempunyai teknologi tersebut mereka akan nafikan.meraka akan nafikan kerana mereka tak nak negara lain tahu dan bersaingan mencuri teknologi mereka.Tujuan mereka ialah untuk menguasai dan menjadi kuasa tunggal di dunia ini.

ingat nak jawap kan...tapi bro dah tolong jawap kan.....thanks...

wheriz
28-03-2008, 12:31 AM
Andaikata mereka mempunyai teknologi tersebut mereka akan nafikan.meraka akan nafikan kerana mereka tak nak negara lain tahu dan bersaingan mencuri teknologi mereka.Tujuan mereka ialah untuk menguasai dan menjadi kuasa tunggal di dunia ini.

Andai kata?... andai kata mereka mmg tak ada teknologi tersebut pun boleh juga. Semua org ada projek rahsia masing2 China, Rusia, dll. Cuma ada dgn tak ada je.

wheriz
28-03-2008, 12:37 AM
ybftpjNHXUQ

Nie video kat World Trade…

Cuba tengok secara slow motion pada saat 21.5 perghh near “dia” hit heli tu...sapa2 yang “maneuver” this thing mmg tahap ‘kurang ajar’…..hehe…..agak2 apa benda tu haa??...

Teknologi apa dia pakai?...anyone here can x-plain?

Bro video ni bukannya boleh diambil 100% benar. Dgn teknologi yang ada sekarang macam2 boleh buat. Even individu pun boleh buat video yang seakan very real. Tgk hollywood dah la semua mcm real je. padahal khayalan semata2.

Kat national georaphic hari tu ada video UFO sedang buat crop circle. bila kaji balik video tu rupanya hoax. critical thinking la bro.

mj12
28-03-2008, 12:37 AM
Using Gravity for Interstellar Travel

Lets assume the red ball A, can generate a strong gravitational field and lens that gravitational field or wave in this case. Lensing a strong wave is sufficient to shoot a vector in any direction and therefore distort space-time in its path. But to define a point in space-time and bring that point to the gravity source, essentially compressing the space-time between A and B, then the Red ball would need at least 2 or 3 separately generated gravity wave vectors. This is due to the need to triangulate the three synchronized lensed beams of gravity to a distant point where they intersect. One example of a triangulation program that uses separate but synchronized vectors exists in the 3D motion capture industry which we use to do feature film effects. Another example is seen in sound based programs that can detect the exact point of origin of a sniper's position simply by listening to the gunshot from three to six different microphones. When we generate and intense gravitational field, we can distort the space/time and in turn the distance between the point where we are and the 'point' where we want to be. We can then position ourselves at the point where we want to be, a very small move at this stage, and then stop generating the gravitational field...allowing space/time to return to it's natural form. We would now be at that new point, still millions of miles from where we started an instant ago.

With the effects of gravity from so many sources in space, its safe to assume light wouldn't travel in a straight line naturally. So to shoot too far in the distance could be disastrously off the target by millions of miles. These crafts travel in zig-zag patterns or "small chunks" to maintain a sense of its position in space. Only the most sophisticated navigation system could keep track of these jump points. Remember, our star charts are only valuable from our point of view. One powerful jump into space and all those star charts would be void. Distance from earth to the star as a cross reference would not be enough because that would be to assume that light is really traveling in a straight line, unaffected by gravitational forces.
We know that the shortest distance between two points is a straight line, so in our universe we've always assumed that the fastest way from point A to point B was to travel in a straight line between the two points at the speed of light.

When you're distorting space/time and you have the ability of generating an intense gravitational field, then the fastest way from point A to point B is to distort, or warp, or bend the space/time between points A and B, bringing points A and B closer together. The more intense the gravitational field, the greater the distortion of space/time and the shorter the distance between points A and B.

Space/time is an 'entity' and one of it's properties is that it can be distorted or bent by a gravitational field. The gravitational field we use to bend or warp space-time propagates at 7.46hz at a one micron bandwidth. The amplitude of this wave and simultaneous triangular lensing are the main variables used to distort space-time.

We know that gravity bends or distorts space/time and light by virtue of the fact that we're able to see stars which we know should be blocked from our view by the sun. Once the space/time of the destination point has been warped or bent towards the source, the craft(UFO) generating the source makes the small move into that space/time.

The great benefit of generating an intense gravitational field is that you can not only turn it on, you can turn it off. When the gravity amplifiers are "shut-off", this results in the craft(UFO) now "existing" in the target space/time location. In this manner, we can travel great distances with little linear movement and this is how space/time distortion translates into reduced distance.

That's how it's possible to cross the vast expanses of space required for interstellar travel without exceeding the speed of light and without traveling in a linear mode. And, up until this point in time, great mass such as a star, planet, or moon was the only source of a discernable gravitational field that we were aware of.

Just as the gravitational field around great mass, such as a planet, distorts space and time, any gravitational field, whether naturally occurring or generated, distorts space and time in a similar manner.

DanielAriffin
28-03-2008, 12:38 AM
Hehe.. yg ni model baru kan? guna teknology stealh lut radar.. :-? yg model lama ditembak jatuh oleh petani guna rocket launcher kat Iraq dulu.. :p

Hello geng...
Bukan dgn AK-47 aje ke???

Microwave
28-03-2008, 12:47 AM
Bro video ni bukannya boleh diambil 100% benar. Dgn teknologi yang ada sekarang macam2 boleh buat. Even individu pun boleh buat video yang seakan very real. Tgk hollywood dah la semua mcm real je. padahal khayalan semata2.

Kat national georaphic hari tu ada video UFO sedang buat crop circle. bila kaji balik video tu rupanya hoax. critical thinking la bro.
Erm.. ini salah satu yg saya katakan tadi.. mata kita dicipta utk mempercayai sesuatu perkara dan tidak diterima oleh akal disebbkan asasnya tidak cukup. Bro pernah ingat dahulu ke? pasal menda² yg xda pada zaman bro kecil dan dah pon ade skrang ni? adakah bro masih nak menutup mata yg mengaburkan fikiran. :)

kaitkan dgn contoh yg bro Mj katakan..
saudara mmg saya x der suruh sesiapa percaya...cuma fikirkan..dan bincangkan...

teringat saya pada peristiwa selepas Isra' dan Mi'raj Baginda Saw..yahudi bertanya Baginda Saw benarkah Baginda Saw telah ke lapisan langit ke tujuh menemui Allah?..jawap Baginda "Benar"...yahudi itu tertawa..lantas menyuruh Baginda Saw mengangkat sebelah kaki..lalu Baginda Saw mengangkat lantas yahudi menyuruh Baginda Saw mengangkat kedua-dua belah kaki Baginda Baginda menjawap "Tidak Boleh.." lantas yahudi itu tertawa dan berkata macam mana nak suruh dia percaya...angkat kedua2 kaki pun x mampu ni nak ke langit ke 7.....

memang sifat manusia akan percaya pada apa yang ada di depan mata sahaja....

Microwave
28-03-2008, 01:00 AM
Hello geng...
Bukan dgn AK-47 aje ke???
Comanche belum lagi dijadikan Helikopter utk direct war, skrang masih lagi dlm ujian. Yg kene tembak tu Apache-Longbow. Apache mmg bertindak sebagai helikopter penggempur pada mase itu dan juga menjadi antara escort/back-up helicopter utk ground force.
p.s: sori tuan tanahh teroff topic. :) saya bukan menyokong US. tetapi saya mmg suka akan teknologi perperangannya. :D

goldtrader
28-03-2008, 01:02 AM
kalau teknlogi tu betul2 dah ada .. kenapa masih disorok .. heran jugak aku ... apsal tak serang iran pakai teknologi mcm tu

kenapa jugak masih abis wang berbilion2 USD hanya utk menampung perbelanjaan bagi senjata2 kuno ...

susah jugak kalau minda kita terlalu dipengaruhi dengan teknologi sains fiksyen ...

takkan laa kita x tau dengan perangai mat salleh ni .. kalau dia dah betul2 bleh buat sure diorang perhebahkan ...

cthnya mcm technology stealth fighter tu ... tu pun still ambik teknologi rusia pada asalnya

jgn terlalu creative thinking sampai fikiran jadi merapu sudah

selain tu .. article2 yg dikatakan data sulit .. kalau benar lah article tu sulit aku rasa takde laa diorang bubuh dalam internet ni malahan penyebar tu dah lama kena tembak dah pun

wheriz
28-03-2008, 01:09 AM
Erm.. ini salah satu yg saya katakan tadi.. mata kita dicipta utk mempercayai sesuatu perkara dan tidak diterima oleh akal disebbkan asasnya tidak cukup. Bro pernah ingat dahulu ke? pasal menda² yg xda pada zaman bro kecil dan dah pon ade skrang ni? adakah bro masih nak menutup mata yg mengaburkan fikiran. :)

kaitkan dgn contoh yg bro Mj katakan..

Yang mmg dahula tak ada sekarang ada. Ada benda yang kita tak terfikir akan ada tetapi ada. (contoh mcm h/p 3g, dahulu telefon dial). Tetapi ada perkara yang kita fikir akan ada tetapi tetap tak ada, tapi kita mengharap juga ia akan ada di masa depan, tapi kalau dia masih tak ada. dan mmmg tak akan wujud di masa depan kita tak tahu.

Ada imiginasi yang jadi real(contoh project star wars US- tapi tak jadi). ada imiginasi yang tak jadi real spt idea dari jurassic park, menghidupkan dinasor zaman silam dari tinggalan sisa dan kod genetiknya. Maka kita kembali kepada agama kita siapakah yang berkuasa menghidup dan mematikan? Menghidupkan dari barang yang mati dan mematikan dari barang yang hidup. Dan perkara ini takkan terjadi. Sbb bukan hak kita utk mengidupkan.

So ada imiginasi atau perkara yang takkan jadi real selamanya. tinggal imiginasi semata2.

mj12
28-03-2008, 01:12 AM
WHAT IS ANTIMATTER

Anti-matter is the exact counterpart of matter which has a charge and a spin that is in the opposite of all matter. When combined with any matter in our universe, anti-matter reacts and completely converts to energy. This is called a total annihilation reaction. The 100 percent conversion of matter to energy. Keep in mind that any rapid conversion of matter to energy is what we generally call an explosion.

WHAT ANTIMATTER IS NOT

Do not confuse ANTIMATTER with NEGATIVE MATTER. They are not the same. Negative matter is a hypothetical type of matter which requires many variables such as active and passive gravitational forces, and inertial and rest masses to be opposite in sign to normal, positive matter. Antimatter on the other hand is known so far to have a positive mass.

COMPARING EXPLOSIVE POWER

The bombs the United States detonated over Hiroshima and Nagasaki were called FISSION bombs. The immediate area of destruction of such a bomb was 3 to 4 miles. In this case, only one percent of the nuclear material in this bomb actually reacts. Since that time, a man named Dr. Edward Teller, the father of the hydrogen bomb, discovered that FUSION bomb was possible which would create a greater reaction using the same amount of nuclear material.If such a bomb were dropped today on the same target, the immediate area of destruction would be approximately twenty miles. This would be caused by a nuclear fusion reaction, in which again, less than one percent of the nuclear material actually converts to energy or explodes. The other ninety-nine percent of the nuclear matter in this type of bomb is dispersed, but is not involved in the actual nuclear fusion reaction.

WHAT IF 100% OF THE NUCLEAR MATERIAL REACTED?

So if a bomb was made with the same amount of nuclear material as one of the bombs dropped on Japan, and that nuclear material was antimatter, (or the total, 100% conversion of matter to energy) when that bomb exploded in, say, North Korea for instance. The area of total devastation would include thousand of mile ,with the exact area of total devastation being very difficult to calculate. This would be caused by what is called a a total annihilation reaction, which is the complete conversion of matter to energy. One hundred percent of the nuclear material in this bomb would explode or convert to energy. We currently have no practical way to harness anti-matter into a bomb and can only isolate anti-matter in a particle accelerator and store it for a short time
The power source is a reactor. Inside the reactor, element 115 is bombarded with a proton, which plugs into the nucleus of the 115 atom and becomes element 116, which immediately decays and releases or radiates small amounts of anti-matter. The anti-matter is released in a vacuum into a tuned tube, which keeps it from reacting with the matter that surrounds it. It is then directed toward the gaseous matter target at the end of the tube. The matter, which in this case is the gas, and the anti-matter, collide and annihilate totally converting to energy. The heat from this reaction is converted into electrical energy in a near one hundred percent efficient thermoelectric generator. This is a device that converts heat directly into electrical energy. Many of our satellites and space probes use thermoelectric generators, but their efficiency is very, very low.

Megat Sri Rama
28-03-2008, 01:18 AM
kalau dah 35juta tahun cahaya, ertinya pada kelajuan cahaya, memerlukan 35 juta tahun untuk sampai.

siapa yang nak travel pada kelajuan cahaya?
siapa yang boleh hidup sampai 35 juta tahun?

kalau pergi dan balik (untuk memberi bukti bahwa mereka sudah berjaya ke bintang tersebut) dah 70 juta tahun.

bumi usianya berapa tahun?

Microwave
28-03-2008, 01:21 AM
kalau dah 35juta tahun cahaya, ertinya pada kelajuan cahaya, memerlukan 35 juta tahun untuk sampai.

siapa yang nak travel pada kelajuan cahaya?
siapa yang boleh hidup sampai 35 juta tahun?

kalau pergi dan balik (untuk memberi bukti bahwa mereka sudah berjaya ke bintang tersebut) dah 70 juta tahun.

bumi usianya berapa tahun?

jalan kaki ke kuala lumpur dari JB dgn naik kereta pergi ke kuala lumpur dari jb? mane yg lebih lama dan siapa yg cepat tua??

cuma fikirkan masa dn jarak disini? relatekan dgn ape yg bro cakap diatas tu. :D

mj12
28-03-2008, 01:23 AM
Erm.. ini salah satu yg saya katakan tadi.. mata kita dicipta utk mempercayai sesuatu perkara dan tidak diterima oleh akal disebbkan asasnya tidak cukup. Bro pernah ingat dahulu ke? pasal menda² yg xda pada zaman bro kecil dan dah pon ade skrang ni? adakah bro masih nak menutup mata yg mengaburkan fikiran. :)

kaitkan dgn contoh yg bro Mj katakan..

biar lah dia bro...kita bukan boleh paksa 'mindset'...org menjadi seperti kita melihat sesuatu sesuai dengan Firman Allah:

"(Iaitu) orang-orang yang menyebut dan mengingati Allah semasa mereka berdiri dan duduk dan semasa mereka baring mengiring, dan mereka pula memikirkan tentang kejadian langit dan bumi (sambil berkata) : " Wahai Tuhan Kami ! tidaklah engkau menjadikan benda-benda ini dengan sia-sia, Maha Suci Engkau, maka peliharalah kami dari azab neraka."

( surah Ali Imran : 191 )

mj12
28-03-2008, 01:26 AM
jalan kaki ke kuala lumpur dari JB dgn naik kereta pergi ke kuala lumpur dari jb? mane yg lebih lama dan siapa yg cepat tua??

cuma fikirkan masa dn jarak disini? relatekan dgn ape yg bro cakap diatas tu. :D

:D :D :D :D saya pun x penah terfikir perumpamaan saudara nie.."firing 1 bullet to hit 2 bird".....:)

Microwave
28-03-2008, 01:27 AM
Yang mmg dahula tak ada sekarang ada. Ada benda yang kita tak terfikir akan ada tetapi ada. (contoh mcm h/p 3g, dahulu telefon dial). Tetapi ada perkara yang kita fikir akan ada tetapi tetap tak ada, tapi kita mengharap juga ia akan ada di masa depan, tapi kalau dia masih tak ada. dan mmmg tak akan wujud di masa depan kita tak tahu.

Ada imiginasi yang jadi real(contoh project star wars US- tapi tak jadi). ada imiginasi yang tak jadi real spt idea dari jurassic park, menghidupkan dinasor zaman silam dari tinggalan sisa dan kod genetiknya. Maka kita kembali kepada agama kita siapakah yang berkuasa menghidup dan mematikan? Menghidupkan dari barang yang mati dan mematikan dari barang yang hidup. Dan perkara ini takkan terjadi. Sbb bukan hak kita utk mengidupkan.

So ada imiginasi atau perkara yang takkan jadi real selamanya. tinggal imiginasi semata2.

Kenapa pulak tidak akan jadi sama, jika kita hanya berfikir mengunakan mata, mmg terhadad batasnya.. dah byk teknologi baru berdasarkan imaginasi la bro. tanpa imaginasi, adakah kita boleh mereka cipta sesuatu. kita tanya dengan arkitek.. jurutera pelan dan pereka² x kira baju maupon sesiapa yg mereka cipta. bolehkah "tanpa imiginasi ianya akan terhasil sesuatu"?:-?

Microwave
28-03-2008, 01:30 AM
biar lah dia bro...kita bukan boleh paksa 'mindset'...org menjadi seperti kita melihat sesuatu sesuai dengan Firman Allah:

"(Iaitu) orang-orang yang menyebut dan mengingati Allah semasa mereka berdiri dan duduk dan semasa mereka baring mengiring, dan mereka pula memikirkan tentang kejadian langit dan bumi (sambil berkata) : " Wahai Tuhan Kami ! tidaklah engkau menjadikan benda-benda ini dengan sia-sia, Maha Suci Engkau, maka peliharalah kami dari azab neraka."

( surah Ali Imran : 191 )

Ikan pekasam, bukan ramai pun tau sedap x sedap.. cuma depa ingat bau yg "busuk" je.. tapi yg "Busuk" tu sodap.. ehem..ehem..:eek: :))

mj12
28-03-2008, 01:31 AM
Kenapa pulak tidak akan jadi sama, jika kita hanya berfikir mengunakan mata, mmg terhadad batasnya.. dah byk teknologi baru berdasarkan imaginasi la bro. tanpa imaginasi, adakah kita boleh mereka cipta sesuatu. kita tanya dengan arkitek.. jurutera pelan dan pereka² x kira baju maupon sesiapa yg mereka cipta. bolehkah "tanpa imiginasi ianya akan terhasil sesuatu"?:-?

tambah sikit lagi...

kalau dia baca buku nie dia akan faham:

Only the Paranoid Survive: Andrew S. Grove

wheriz
28-03-2008, 01:35 AM
Kenapa pulak tidak akan jadi sama, jika kita hanya berfikir mengunakan mata, mmg terhadad batasnya.. dah byk teknologi baru berdasarkan imaginasi la bro. tanpa imaginasi, adakah kita boleh mereka cipta sesuatu. kita tanya dengan arkitek.. jurutera pelan dan pereka² x kira baju maupon sesiapa yg mereka cipta. bolehkah "tanpa imiginasi ianya akan terhasil sesuatu"?:-?

Aku cakap lain hang cakap lain..apa yang hang cakap bukan apa yang aku maksudkan

Microwave
28-03-2008, 01:39 AM
Yang mmg dahula tak ada sekarang ada. Ada benda yang kita tak terfikir akan ada tetapi ada. (contoh mcm h/p 3g, dahulu telefon dial). Tetapi ada perkara yang kita fikir akan ada tetapi tetap tak ada, tapi kita mengharap juga ia akan ada di masa depan, tapi kalau dia masih tak ada. dan mmmg tak akan wujud di masa depan kita tak tahu.

Ada imiginasi yang jadi real(contoh project star wars US- tapi tak jadi). ada imiginasi yang tak jadi real spt idea dari jurassic park, menghidupkan dinasor zaman silam dari tinggalan sisa dan kod genetiknya. Maka kita kembali kepada agama kita siapakah yang berkuasa menghidup dan mematikan? Menghidupkan dari barang yang mati dan mematikan dari barang yang hidup. Dan perkara ini takkan terjadi. Sbb bukan hak kita utk mengidupkan.

So ada imiginasi atau perkara yang takkan jadi real selamanya. tinggal imiginasi semata2.
:-? :-? :-?

wheriz
28-03-2008, 01:43 AM
biar lah dia bro...kita bukan boleh paksa 'mindset'...org menjadi seperti kita melihat sesuatu sesuai dengan Firman Allah:

"(Iaitu) orang-orang yang menyebut dan mengingati Allah semasa mereka berdiri dan duduk dan semasa mereka baring mengiring, dan mereka pula memikirkan tentang kejadian langit dan bumi (sambil berkata) : " Wahai Tuhan Kami ! tidaklah engkau menjadikan benda-benda ini dengan sia-sia, Maha Suci Engkau, maka peliharalah kami dari azab neraka."

( surah Ali Imran : 191 )

Ayat diatas boleh ditafsir dlm berbagai sudut. bukannya satu sudut shj. berbagai kajian dan sebagainya. dgn berbagai mindset lah dapat berbagai buah fikiran yang bernas. Tak semestinya nak kena semua org sama dgn mindset saudara. Tak semestinya org yang lain mindset dgn saudara adalah org2 yang mundur atau pemikiran tertutup. Tapi terbuka di sudut yang lain pula.

mj12
28-03-2008, 01:45 AM
Kenapa pulak tidak akan jadi sama, jika kita hanya berfikir mengunakan mata, mmg terhadad batasnya.. dah byk teknologi baru berdasarkan imaginasi la bro. tanpa imaginasi, adakah kita boleh mereka cipta sesuatu. kita tanya dengan arkitek.. jurutera pelan dan pereka² x kira baju maupon sesiapa yg mereka cipta. bolehkah "tanpa imiginasi ianya akan terhasil sesuatu"?:-?

saya tambah sikit lagi leh...

kalau Orville Wright x der imaginasi untuk terbang seperti burung x wujub lah MAS,SIA,QATAR AIRWAYS...AIR-ASIA pun x leh lah kasi tambang semurah dari RM9.99 KL ke Singapore ...x caya check sekarang

www.airasia.com.


dan


Kalau Thomas Edison tak de imaginasi nak cipta mentol...


kita ramai2 kena pakat2 lah bila malam kena cari batu...ketuk kedua2 batu supaya 'spark' keluar then leh hidup kan unggun api supaya terang sikit malam.....


amacam?:)


p/s: saya sebenarnya nak tergelak besar tapi saya tahan..Nabi Saw ajar walaupun sesuatu perkara amat lucu berlaku kita diwajidkan senyum dan tidak sampai menampak kan gigi...:)..:)...:)

wheriz
28-03-2008, 01:47 AM
Kenapa pulak tidak akan jadi sama, jika kita hanya berfikir mengunakan mata, mmg terhadad batasnya.. dah byk teknologi baru berdasarkan imaginasi la bro. tanpa imaginasi, adakah kita boleh mereka cipta sesuatu. kita tanya dengan arkitek.. jurutera pelan dan pereka² x kira baju maupon sesiapa yg mereka cipta. bolehkah "tanpa imiginasi ianya akan terhasil sesuatu"?:-?

Bro cakap ttg tanpa imiginasi ... tak akan ter hasil sesuatu.. aku tak sanggah pun. Berimiginasilah, ciptalah semua tu. atau apa . Yang aku cakap ada imiginasi yang tak akan jadi kenyataan. itu maksud aku.

Microwave
28-03-2008, 01:49 AM
saya tambah sikit lagi leh...

kalau Orville Wright x der imaginasi untuk terbang seperti burung x wujub lah MAS,SIA,QATAR AIRWAYS...AIR-ASIA pun x leh lah kasi tambang semurah dari RM9.99 KL ke Singapore ...x caya check sekarang

www.airasia.com.


dan


Kalau Thomas Edison tak de imaginasi nak cipta mentol...


kita ramai2 kena pakat2 lah bila malam kena cari batu...ketuk kedua2 batu supaya 'spark' keluar then leh hidup kan unggun api supaya terang sikit malam.....


amacam?:)


p/s: saya sebenarnya nak tergelak besar tapi saya tahan..Nabi Saw ajar walaupun sesuatu perkara amat lucu berlaku kita diwajidkan senyum dan tidak sampai menampak kan gigi...:)..:)...:)

saya x larat nak senyum kene gelak jugak:eek: :)) :)paid :)cgrock

p.s: lepas ni kene duk dlm gua pulak la.. :))

mj12
28-03-2008, 01:54 AM
Amacam? semua dah dah jumpa ke 2 batu yang sesedap tangan memegang..permukaan kasar...dan dah kumpul kan ke daun2 kering...leh kita mula kan acara kita...:-)

goldtrader
28-03-2008, 01:56 AM
sesetengah mende tu memang ada logika utk dijadikan sebagai realiti, kita perlu pandai membezakan teknologi dari sains yang berdasarkan imiginasi dan kreativiti berbanding dengan sains fiksyen yang hanya adalah gabungan dari pada imaginasi berlandaskan fantasi sahaja

tambahan pula sekarang ni teknologi yang dihasilkan mampu membuat fantasi itu seolah olah sesuatu yg realiti

mj12
28-03-2008, 01:58 AM
saya x larat nak senyum kene gelak jugak:eek: :)) :)paid :)cgrock

p.s: lepas ni kene duk dlm gua pulak la.. :))

gua mana bro?...Gua Bruce Wayne yang dalam citer BATMAN tu ke...kalau gua tu saya ok je....best lepak gua macam tu...leh surf internet lagi dalam tu...siap leh trade lg...:)

p/s: tengah sakit perut nie tahan gelak...kalau tergelak gak saya minta maaf laa yee...:)

blackstylus
28-03-2008, 01:59 AM
ah... panjangnye nk bc, malas la.... senang cite, x caye...

Microwave
28-03-2008, 02:05 AM
sesetengah mende tu memang ada logika utk dijadikan sebagai realiti, kita perlu pandai membezakan teknologi dari sains yang berdasarkan imiginasi dan kreativiti berbanding dengan sains fiksyen yang hanya adalah gabungan dari pada imaginasi berlandaskan fantasi sahaja

tambahan pula sekarang ni teknologi yang dihasilkan mampu membuat fantasi itu seolah olah sesuatu yg realiti
Memang benarnya fikiran logika itu yg membuatkan kan kita tidak sedar akan pintu yg lain telah pon terbuka utk kita. kita hnya nampak pada satu pintu sehingga pintu lain yg terbuka luaspon kita telah dikaburi oleh penglihatan (logik). Cuba kita berfikir sejenak tutupkan mata kita utk berfikir adakah pintu lain sedang terbuka atau tidak?. Sama juga fractal of life (bill William:chaos Theory). Kita hanya nampak apa yg kita nampak dan diilusikan oleh mata dn dijanakan oleh sel² ke akal sedar dan dlm mase dikawal sepenuhnya oleh akal tidak sedar. Cuba kita sedarkan akal tidak sedar tersebut, maka pemikiran kita kan jadi lebih luas. susah saya nak terangkan isu ini. tetapi kepada sesiapa yg pernah membaca dn mengkajinya akan faham kenapa kita tidak sedar.

p.s: maafkan jika kenyataan saya itu salah.:) saya hanyalah insan yg lemah di bumi Allah ini.

mj12
28-03-2008, 02:13 AM
ah... panjangnye nk bc, malas la.... senang cite, x caye...

pehh Tun dah masuk PAS ke?....

goldtrader
28-03-2008, 02:14 AM
aku pernah baca kajian oleh albert einstein pasal kelajuan warp tu, aku ingat2 lupa

tapi dia cakap ikut teori memang tak mustahil tapi oleh kerana jasad manusia akan berkecai pada halaju tertentu maka teori itu takkan dapat dipraktikkan ...

mj12
28-03-2008, 02:34 AM
TSAR BOMB...50MT...

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mj12
28-03-2008, 02:35 AM
Hiroshima Atom Bomb Impact

http://youtube.com/watch?v=x9lwvImJqT0&feature=related

mj12
28-03-2008, 02:41 AM
UFO Sighting in South India

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mj12
28-03-2008, 02:45 AM
UFO in China

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mj12
28-03-2008, 02:57 AM
Best Evidence of Real UFO Alien Encounters pt 1

kena tengok dari atas sampai bawah

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http://youtube.com/watch?v=Uvbmqs7L3fI

heri
28-03-2008, 03:01 AM
apa2 lah kawan2, janji rock :)cgrock

zerorise
28-03-2008, 03:02 AM
Saya tak percaya amerika boleh cipta alat atau mesin yang membolehkan mereka mencapai bintang-bintang.

Jangan samakan amerika denan nabi dalam peristiwa israk mikraj , itu nabi dia ada mukjizat , Allah sendiri hantar bantuan melalui "burak" sejenis haiwan berkaki 4 bersayap .

Kalau ikut hukum fizik manusia tidak mampu untuk menahan tekanan , even pilot supersonic tu pun takat 9G jer, lebih mampus terus , immediately .

mj12
28-03-2008, 03:08 AM
UFO Lands On The Ground In Canada

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Optical physicist kata it'a a true event..

gov officials deny?

kenapa?

Microwave
28-03-2008, 03:09 AM
Cayala bro MJ.. video ni saya x tgk lagi..best la..

Microwave
28-03-2008, 03:10 AM
Saya tak percaya amerika boleh cipta alat atau mesin yang membolehkan mereka mencapai bintang-bintang.

Jangan samakan amerika denan nabi dalam peristiwa israk mikraj , itu nabi dia ada mukjizat , Allah sendiri hantar bantuan melalui "burak" sejenis haiwan berkaki 4 bersayap .

Kalau ikut hukum fizik manusia tidak mampu untuk menahan tekanan , even pilot supersonic tu pun takat 9G jer, lebih mampus terus , immediately .
bro dah baca thread ni dari awal dan dah fahamkan video yg dah ade ke?:-?

p.s: fahamkan dulu k.:)

mj12
28-03-2008, 03:13 AM
apa2 lah kawan2, janji rock :)cgrock

ahh ahh kan...jom layan lagu niee lama x dengar..

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mj12
28-03-2008, 03:22 AM
UFO Mexico City

453300/ufo_mexico_city

mj12
28-03-2008, 03:24 AM
A simple Antigravity Experiment

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/284110/antigravity_experiment_ufo_technolgy/

Author and talk show host Rob Simone records an antigravity experiment High voltage causes ionic attraction to suspend itself in the air.

mj12
28-03-2008, 03:29 AM
FROM ROSWELL'S CRASH DEBRIS

321906/look_at_this_ufo_crash

mj12
28-03-2008, 04:03 AM
JOM LAYAN UFO SIGHTING ALL OVER THE WORLD

Ufo - Ecuador 09-09-95

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UFO AT RUSSIA SIAP KENA CHASE GAN RUSSIA'S JET LAGI..

220156/declassified_russian_ufo_video


Huge Ufo Over Israel

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/394804/huge_ufo_over_israel/

1/4 mile wide...pergghh

576910/huge_ufos_naval_sightings

UFO Hovers Around Helicopters In Mexico

479184/ufo_hovers_around_helicopters_in_mexico

All around the World sighting...bukan kat America je tau...

Propaganda.....Propaganda...Propaganda......Propag a.....ANDA?:)

“Seorang boleh menipu seseorang sekali-sekala tetapi orang yang sama tidak boleh menipu semua orang pada masa yang sama”-Kata Mutiara-

gihaz
28-03-2008, 04:04 AM
salam..tumpang lalu...eh ade banyak video ekk..

mj12
28-03-2008, 04:08 AM
salam..tumpang lalu...eh ade banyak video ekk..

Wa'alaikumussalam.....ada lah jugak bro...

Microwave
28-03-2008, 04:09 AM
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Best%20Evidence%20of%20Real%2 0UFO%20Alien%20Encounters%20part%206&search=Search&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&spell=1
Cuba check link kat atas ni pulak. :D USO

Lihat link dari atas kebawah.. :)
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wheriz
28-03-2008, 10:00 AM
saya tambah sikit lagi leh...

kalau Orville Wright x der imaginasi untuk terbang seperti burung x wujub lah MAS,SIA,QATAR AIRWAYS...AIR-ASIA pun x leh lah kasi tambang semurah dari RM9.99 KL ke Singapore ...x caya check sekarang

www.airasia.com.


dan


Kalau Thomas Edison tak de imaginasi nak cipta mentol...


kita ramai2 kena pakat2 lah bila malam kena cari batu...ketuk kedua2 batu supaya 'spark' keluar then leh hidup kan unggun api supaya terang sikit malam.....


amacam?:)


p/s: saya sebenarnya nak tergelak besar tapi saya tahan..Nabi Saw ajar walaupun sesuatu perkara amat lucu berlaku kita diwajidkan senyum dan tidak sampai menampak kan gigi...:)..:)...:)


Tak relevan ..so what? aku dah jawab tapi ko tetap tak faham2. Apa yang aku cakap perkara yang berbeza dari apa yang ko nak perlikan ni.. sbb ko tak faham.

wheriz
28-03-2008, 10:03 AM
perbincangan pun dah lari dari topic. kalau nak bincang UFO bukak la topik ufo. Bukak topik lain bincang pasal lain.

Microwave
28-03-2008, 10:07 AM
perbincangan pun dah lari dari topic. kalau nak bincang UFO bukak la topik ufo. Bukak topik lain bincang pasal lain.
Bro yang tak faham ni... UFO tu relatekan dgn topic ini. ape pulak x releven.. skrang kita nak bincangkan, utk kita fikirkan bersama.
mane fakta yg bro cakap x percaya? lampirkan la dgn fakta yg bro ade.:)

mansurgilerduit
28-03-2008, 03:05 PM
pasal UFO ni drp zaman NAZI dan Soviet lagi derang dah pk nak buat. dan byk video aku tgk dh support experiment tu. derang cuba develop teknologi tesla dan anti matter/graviti.

jadi, logiknya tak heran kalo UFO wujud sbb diorang mmg dah cuba nak buat drp zmn perang dunia ke 2.

ada makmal rahsia kat negara bekas soviet yg aku tgk kat video tu dah nak berjaya buat experiment tapi terbengkalai sbb kejatuhan nazi.

korang cari video kt youtube pasal UFO ada list video dokumentari ni. Betul tak betul walluaham.

joelabu
28-03-2008, 03:12 PM
Aku tidak percaya USA dah pergi ke bintang yang jarak nya 35j tahun cahaya... apa kah bahan bakar yg digunakan? bagaimana pula dengan pula bekalan makanan?masalah yang dihadapi untuk mencapai kelajuan cahaya adalah suhu..umum tahu lagi laju bergerak..lagi sejuk..jadi secara logik..bila kita dah gerak lebih laju dari cahaya..akan beku...ataupun kapal tersebut boleh cair..ambil contoh semasa shuttle na mendarat..nose shuttle tersebut akan merah menyala!..itu pun belum smpi speed of light(SOL)..jadi..apakah bahan yg digunakan untuk tahan suhu² ini?...citer pasal UFO..nama UFO = Unidentified Flying Object... xsemesti nya benda yg nampak tu kapal terbang..mungkin burung yg ganjil ke..sbb benda tu semua xsahih...

mj12
28-03-2008, 03:18 PM
perbincangan pun dah lari dari topic. kalau nak bincang UFO bukak la topik ufo. Bukak topik lain bincang pasal lain.

aikk....maaf bertanya??!!...saudara faham ke kenyataan saudara nie??..pelik rasanya...sebab semua perkara dalam dunia nie dia berkait satu sama lain...

soalan saya:-

1.)apakah saudara hanya menggunakan keyboard sekarang?
(adakah pc saudara tidak ada hard-disk,monitor,processor,ram,modem,router...etc?)... .

2.)Jika saudara menaiki kereta ke tempat kerja saudara hanya pakai streering kereta aja ke?
(..tidak perlu ada enjin,tayar,side mirror,air-cond?...etc).....cabut steering kereta...pegang aja steering kereta kalau nak korner ke kiri korner je..kalau nak korner ke kanan korner je...ala macam citer Mr. Bean...yang selalu Mr. Bean aksi kan tu :) :)

saya aju kan soalan yang paling mudah utk saudara menjawap!!:)

p/s-nie bukan perli tau...nie soalan!!

mj12
28-03-2008, 03:37 PM
...citer pasal UFO..nama UFO = Unidentified Flying Object... xsemesti nya benda yg nampak tu kapal terbang..mungkin burung yg ganjil ke..sbb benda tu semua xsahih...

burung??...duk kat mana burung tu?:).....setau saya burung paling laju adalah Needle-tailed Swift paling laju sekitar 100 batu per jam dia leh terbang....agak2 nya burung yang duduk kat mana saudara maksudkan???:)

joelabu
28-03-2008, 03:49 PM
...citer pasal UFO..nama UFO = Unidentified Flying Object... xsemesti nya benda yg nampak tu kapal terbang..mungkin burung yg ganjil ke..sbb benda tu semua xsahih...

burung??...duk kat mana burung tu?:).....setau saya burung paling laju adalah Needle-tailed Swift paling laju sekitar 100 batu per jam dia leh terbang....agak2 nya burung yang duduk kat mana saudara maksudkan???:)[/QUOTE]

burung tu sebagai contoh jer...kekadang apa yg kita nampak nie boleh ralat..ralat paralaks...contoh nya.. bila object itu berada dekat ia nampak seperti laju..tetapi bila ia terletak jauh(jauh betul lah) nampak perlahan..kita amek contoh F1 car.. tgk dlm tv slow jer...tapi kalau duduk kat grandstand...kejap jer dah hilang..dlm kes burung nie..contoh jer..aku tatau lah burung apa bentuk bujur..sbb contoh jer..kalau burung tu berada xberapa jauh dari camera yg dirakam..ia nampak seperti laju jer pergerakan nya...ini contoh..mungkin lah ckp burung xlogik sbb bentuk tu sendiri..boleh jadi jugak kesan lantunan cahaya(silau) kamera tersebut yg nampak seolah² objek bujur..ini semua kemungkinan jer..sekali lagi burung tu adalah contoh sahaja...

meh cuba bidas statement aku pasal material,food supply,etc tu pulak...sbb benda tu semua amat penting utk manusia bergerak pada jarak ribu² km(lebih² lagi makanan..tatau la kalau ko na ckp cryogenic pulak :p) :D

mj12
28-03-2008, 04:04 PM
..tatau la kalau ko na ckp cyrogenic pulak :p) :D

RALAT EJAAN SEBETULNYA CRYOGENICS BUKAN cyrogenic

ianya ttg kajian bagaimana bahan ataupun makanan tu behave jika berada pada tahap2 tertentu suhu...ala macam so called Angkasawan Negara Sheikh Dato Muzaffar tu buat masa kat ISS dulu...:)

p/s:di depan dia ada perkataan "CRY"..dalam bahasa malaysia nangiss...:) :p)

joelabu
28-03-2008, 04:16 PM
RALAT EJAAN SEBETULNYA CRYOGENICS BUKAN cyrogenic

ianya ttg kajian bagaimana bahan ataupun makanan tu behave jika berada pada tahap2 tertentu suhu...ala macam so called Angkasawan Negara Sheikh Dato Muzaffar tu buat masa kat ISS dulu...:)

p/s:di depan dia ada perkataan "CRY"..dalam bahasa malaysia nangiss...:) :p)

dah buat pembetulan...sorry :p ...sambung bidas statement aku pasal material n makanan n etc...sbb dalam kapal selam nuklear pun...makanan hanya boleh bertahan selama 1bulan sahaja...lepas 1 bulan mknan dah xsedap..kena bg mknan besa jer walaupun bahan bakar yg digunakan boleh bertahan selama 1tahun..tapi manusia tu sendiri belum tentu boleh tahan...dan kalau lah betul na travel ribu² km...1 org jer boleh..agak² dia boleh tahan x secara mental?...dan ini membuatkn kesimpulan aku xberganjak dengan amat mustahil...tetapi hanya seorg manusia sahaja yg pernah bergerak dengan kelajuan cahaya(kilat)..iaitu..rasullullah pada malam israk mikraj..

mj12
28-03-2008, 08:07 PM
dah buat pembetulan...sorry :p ...sambung bidas statement aku pasal material n makanan n etc...sbb dalam kapal selam nuklear pun...makanan hanya boleh bertahan selama 1bulan sahaja...lepas 1 bulan mknan dah xsedap..kena bg mknan besa jer walaupun bahan bakar yg digunakan boleh bertahan selama 1tahun..tapi manusia tu sendiri belum tentu boleh tahan...dan kalau lah betul na travel ribu² km...1 org jer boleh..agak² dia boleh tahan x secara mental?...dan ini membuatkn kesimpulan aku xberganjak dengan amat mustahil...tetapi hanya seorg manusia sahaja yg pernah bergerak dengan kelajuan cahaya(kilat)..iaitu..rasullullah pada malam israk mikraj..

soalan macam macam nie saya bagi laluan kat Prof Dato' Ustaz Hj Harun Din jawap:-

dalam satu ceramah beliau tentang penerokaan angkasa lepas beliau mengatakan“….manusia memang mampu meneroka angkasa lepas walaupun jaraknya berjatu-juta tahun cahaya..ianya tidak mustahil….beliau bertanya pada audien adakah ikan dari lombong Malaysia kita boleh bawa ke San Francisco menaiki pesawat,mendarat di airport dan bawa ikan tu berjalan2…jalan2 kat Golden Gate Bridge,naik pesawat balik pergi pulak France mendarat jalan2 melihat Eiffel Tower naik pesawat kembali pergi ke China mendarat lalu berjalan2 melihat The Great Walls of China,naik pesawat balik pergi ke Jepun mendarat lalu berjalan2 melihat Gunung Fuji naik pesawat kembali mendarat di KLIA lalu di hantar kembali ke lombong asalnya dalam keadaan hidup dan selamat…(siap sihat2 dan ambik gambar dan video lagi masa kt Mount Fuji<yg nie saya tambah )…boleh tak? dia bertanya audien..??..audien semuanya diam…..LALU DIA MENJAWAP MESTILAH BOLEH JIKA IKAN TU TRAVEL DI DALAM AQUARIUM SIAP ADA PUMP ANGIN YANG CUKUP,MAKANAN YANG CUKUP,FILTER PROSES YANG CUKUP….MESTILAH BOLEH..!!....)..selebihnya kena Tanya Ustaz Dato' Harun Din...:)

RALAT sekali lagi kapal selam bahan bakar Nuklear ianya boleh bertahan selama puluhan tahun tanpa ‘refueling’…ambil contoh kapal selam pertama generasi nuklear France iaitu kelas Rubis panjang sekitar 70m dan menggunakan ‘reactor nuclear’ berkuasa sekitar 48MW mampu untuk di gunakan selama lebih kurang 30 tahun tanpa ‘refueling’!! 

RALAT sekali lagi…peristiwa Is'ra dan Mi’raj Rasulullah SAW bergerak melebihi kelajuan cahaya bukan dengan KELAJUAN CAHAYA(cahaya Cuma bergerak pada sekitar 186,000 batu sesaat cahaya memerlukan sekitar 1.1/3 saat untuk cahaya dari bumi sampai ke bulan)…perlu kita ingat peristiwa Rasulullah SAW Is’ra dan Mi’raj hanya lah sepertiga malam .

“Maha Suci Allah yang telah menjalankan hamba-Nya (Muhammad) pada malam hari dari Masjidil-Haraam (di Mekah) ke Masjidil-Aqsa (di Palestin), yang Kami berkati sekelilingnya, untuk memperlihatkan kepadanya tanda-tanda (kekuasaan dan kebesaran) Kami. Sesungguhnya Allah jualah yang Maha Mendengar lagi Maha Mengetahui.”

(Al-Israa’: 1)

Perjalanan Baginda SAW dari Masjidil Haram di Mecca terus ke Masjidil Aqsa di Palestin lalu terus ke tgkt pertama langit hingga ke Sidratul Muntaha bertemu Allah menerima perintah solat dari Allah ,lalu pulang ke Mecca hanyalah sepertiga malam!!......

“Dan demi sesungguhnya! (Nabi Muhammad) telah melihat (malaikat Jibril dalam bentuk rupanya yang asal) sekali lagi di sisi “Sidratul-Muntaha”; yang di sisinya terletak syurga “Jannatul-Makwa”. (Nabi Muhammad melihat Jibril dalam bentuk rupanya yang asal pada kali ini ialah) semasa “Sidratul-Muntaha” itu diliputi oleh makhluk-makhluk dari alam-alam ghaib, yang tidak terhingga. Penglihatan (Nabi Muhammad) tidak berkisar daripada menyaksikan dengan tepat (akan pemandangan yang indah di situ yang diizinkan melihatnya), dan tidak pula melampaui batas. Demi sesungguhnya ia telah melihat sebahagian dari sebesar-besar tanda-tanda (yang membuktikan luasnya pemerintahan dan kekuasaan) Tuhan-Nya.”

( An-Najm- 13-18).

perlu di ingat kan pada saudara jarak antara Matahari di bintang kita iaitu kepulauan(Milky Way) ke bintang paling dekat iaitu Proxima Centauri adalah sekitar 4.3 juta tahun cahaya.Teori saudara bahawa Rasulullah SAW “bergerak dengan kelajuan cahaya(kilat)”adalah dangkal semata2…Baginda SAW bergerak melebihi kelajuan cahaya berdasarkan peristiwa Is’ra dan Mi’raj.

Yang baik itu datang dari Allah yang buruk itu datang dari kelemahan saya sendiri..



p/s:tolong taip elok sikit ya Rasulullah SAW bukan “rasullullah” huruf R kena besar dan di ikuti SAW di belakangnya….kena hormat sikit yaa….ni Nabi Muhammad SAW yang akan member sya’faat pada kita nanti.!!

p/s:tolong eja betul2 ya istilah2 science sebab tersilap ejaan akan memberi maksud yang berbeza...iainya berbeza dgn bahasa seharian. :) :D :p

profesor
28-03-2008, 08:23 PM
Bro mj12, persoalannya sekarang bukanlah rekaan teknologi dipertikaikan, tp adakah US sudah mampu ke bintang SEKARANG? apa buktinya? gambar ker? n so on..

mansurgilerduit
28-03-2008, 09:00 PM
lagi satu masalah dgn kelajuan adalah material. kalo ada kenderaan yg bergerak sangat laju kat bumi ni memang problem ar sbb kesan geseran udara. selain geseran yg menyebabkan besi boleh cair sbb kesan panas geseran udara, problem lain adalah getaran yg menyebabkan material boleh retak dan pecah.

Ni la masalah utama US nak buat Scramjet tu. Matlamat US adalah untuk mencipta jet yang boleh bergerak antara benua dalam beberapa minit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scramjet

Macam roket Soyuz/Nasa pun boleh bergerak sampai 32,000 km/j sebab ia bergerak di luar bumi (orbit) yang mana kita maklum bersifat hampir vakum (tiada atom/molekul dalam udara maka tiada la geseran).

Setakat ini spacecraft paling laju pernah dicipta adalah Helios probes dgn top speed 252,792 km/h:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helios_probes

Kelajuan cahaya adalah 1,079,252,849 km/h:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_speed

kalau betul la US ada kenderaan yg boleh bergerak lebih laju daripada cahaya, maka masalah lain adalah seperti apa yg berlaku dengan komet.

Kelajuan tertinggi komet pernah dicatat adalah 1.6 juta km/h.

Di sistem solar meskipun vakum, tetapi ada gangguan natural lain seperti radiasi, angin solar, hujan meteor, sejuk melampau, panas melampau etc. Ini adalah antara kekangan jika bergerak di angkasa.

mj12
29-03-2008, 12:08 AM
Bro mj12, persoalannya sekarang bukanlah rekaan teknologi dipertikaikan, tp adakah US sudah mampu ke bintang SEKARANG? apa buktinya? gambar ker? n so on..

itu yang tgh relate kan tu bro....tu la soalan saya mampu kah US dengan teknologi yang dia ada skg yg unclassified dan classified.....mampukah mereka?..:)

joelabu
29-03-2008, 12:13 AM
i say man...ko take 'word for word'..ok ok..good job..lepas nie..aku akan peka lagi apa yg aku taip...

mj12
29-03-2008, 12:30 AM
i say man...ko take 'word for word'..ok ok..good job..lepas nie..aku akan peka lagi apa yg aku taip...

sorry bro...bukan apa...kekadang tgk mt4 je....mata nie jadi biol sikit....tgk nombor...nombor....nombor...tp..tp...tu yg bila tgk statement dari bro terus je dia tangap...sorry bro...minta maaf sesangat kalau bro ada terasa hati...ikhlas nie bro saya minta maaf..so sorry erk..

mj12
29-03-2008, 12:36 AM
UFO PIC

28 March 1976 16:50 Bachtelhornli-Unterbachtel Switzerland.

http://www.galactic-server.net/torealf/ufo_155.jpg

http://www.galactic-server.net/torealf/ufo_192.jpg

http://www.galactic-server.net/torealf/ufo_190.jpg

mj12
29-03-2008, 12:41 AM
8 March 1976 09:50 Bactel Hörnli/Unterbactel/Unterbach Orn-Hinwil Switzerland


http://www.galactic-server.net/torealf/ufo_147.jpg

http://www.galactic-server.net/torealf/ufo_186.jpg

http://www.galactic-server.net/torealf/ufo_183.jpg

Microwave
29-03-2008, 12:42 AM
pasal UFO ni drp zaman NAZI dan Soviet lagi derang dah pk nak buat. dan byk video aku tgk dh support experiment tu. derang cuba develop teknologi tesla dan anti matter/graviti.

jadi, logiknya tak heran kalo UFO wujud sbb diorang mmg dah cuba nak buat drp zmn perang dunia ke 2.

ada makmal rahsia kat negara bekas soviet yg aku tgk kat video tu dah nak berjaya buat experiment tapi terbengkalai sbb kejatuhan nazi.

korang cari video kt youtube pasal UFO ada list video dokumentari ni. Betul tak betul walluaham.

Yup.. ikut pemerhatian dan hasil dari ape yg saya kaji pon mmg menda ni semua dah ade dan dah lama wujud. kenapa kita tak relatekan dgn dajal, bermuda triagle.. munkin dah terkeluar dari topik sgt. :D, marah pulak tuan tanah. :)paid

mj12
29-03-2008, 12:45 AM
29 March 1976 18:05 Hasenböl-Langenberg/Fischental Switzerland.

http://www.galactic-server.net/torealf/ufo_146.jpg

http://www.galactic-server.net/torealf/ufo_193.jpg

joelabu
29-03-2008, 12:46 AM
http://galactic2.net/torealf/ufo_200.jpg

ni pulak gambar close-up...perhatikan bebetul.. besar UFO tersebut dgn kereta sorong kat belakang tu...tatau laa kalau mata aku nie tak betul ke apa..tapi...dekat sini..saiz ufo nie..kecil teramat...

UFO ini jugak diambil pada tahun 1976 dari swiss

Microwave
29-03-2008, 12:47 AM
Aku tidak percaya USA dah pergi ke bintang yang jarak nya 35j tahun cahaya... apa kah bahan bakar yg digunakan? bagaimana pula dengan pula bekalan makanan?masalah yang dihadapi untuk mencapai kelajuan cahaya adalah suhu..umum tahu lagi laju bergerak..lagi sejuk..jadi secara logik..bila kita dah gerak lebih laju dari cahaya..akan beku...ataupun kapal tersebut boleh cair..ambil contoh semasa shuttle na mendarat..nose shuttle tersebut akan merah menyala!..itu pun belum smpi speed of light(SOL)..jadi..apakah bahan yg digunakan untuk tahan suhu² ini?...citer pasal UFO..nama UFO = Unidentified Flying Object... xsemesti nya benda yg nampak tu kapal terbang..mungkin burung yg ganjil ke..sbb benda tu semua xsahih...

1. bahan bakar?.
- antimatter Reactor

2. Burung ganjill?
- :D

3.kapal tersebut boleh cair?.
-ada dlm video (alien Engineering) pasal isu ini. saya pulak x reti nak sebut, faham tu mmg paham. :D

Microwave
29-03-2008, 12:50 AM
http://galactic2.net/torealf/ufo_200.jpg

ni pulak gambar close-up...perhatikan bebetul.. besar UFO tersebut dgn kereta sorong kat belakang tu...tatau laa kalau mata aku nie tak betul ke apa..tapi...dekat sini..saiz ufo nie..kecil teramat...

UFO ini jugak diambil pada tahun 1976 dari swiss

dari permerhatian saya pada gamba ini kan.. macam hoax je. bukan semua gamba UFO kat internet ni boleh pakai. ade sesetengah je yg betul. tapi dari gamba ni.. ade perbezaan warna pada sekeliling seolah² ianya berada di depan kamera.:-?

cuba tgk dari segi lighting dia.. ada perbezaan dgn lighting logic jika ia berada diatas kereta sorong.

atlantis
29-03-2008, 12:52 AM
http://galactic2.net/torealf/ufo_200.jpg

ni pulak gambar close-up...perhatikan bebetul.. besar UFO tersebut dgn kereta sorong kat belakang tu...tatau laa kalau mata aku nie tak betul ke apa..tapi...dekat sini..saiz ufo nie..kecil teramat...

UFO ini jugak diambil pada tahun 1976 dari swiss

ini gambo belt pulley !
aku kenal sangat ! :)) :eek:

mj12
29-03-2008, 12:53 AM
ok ke ...layan sekejap close up ufo all over the world...hehe...ada sikit lari topic ada relate sikit arr..."exclusive".. pic close up.... :-)



11 July 1977 15:30 Floradad Uruguay
http://www.galactic-server.net/torealf/ufo_70.jpg

21 June 1977 Centeno Argentina
http://www.galactic-server.net/torealf/ufo_63.jpg

joelabu
29-03-2008, 12:53 AM
1. bahan bakar?.
- antimatter Reactor
Antimatter is said to be the most expensive substance in existence, with an estimated cost of $300 billion per milligram.

2. Burung ganjill?
- :D
:p

3.kapal tersebut boleh cair?.
-ada dlm video (alien Engineering) pasal isu ini. saya pulak x reti nak sebut, faham tu mmg paham. :D
jgn citer alien engineering bro...kita citer apa yg ada kat planet earth sahaja dulu...

mj12
29-03-2008, 12:54 AM
http://galactic2.net/torealf/ufo_200.jpg

ni pulak gambar close-up...perhatikan bebetul.. besar UFO tersebut dgn kereta sorong kat belakang tu...tatau laa kalau mata aku nie tak betul ke apa..tapi...dekat sini..saiz ufo nie..kecil teramat...

UFO ini jugak diambil pada tahun 1976 dari swiss

ufo tu nak usha kete tu...dia tgk antik sangat bro.. :-)

mj12
29-03-2008, 01:02 AM
ini gambo belt pulley !
aku kenal sangat ! :)) :eek:

gambar hoax tu...biasa nya ufo x kan dapat tangkap gambar dia se dekat macam tu....saya tgk macam gasing yang orang main kat kelantan pun ada...:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

Microwave
29-03-2008, 01:03 AM
1. bahan bakar?.
- antimatter Reactor
Antimatter is said to be the most expensive substance in existence, with an estimated cost of $300 billion per milligram.

2. Burung ganjill?
- :D
:p

3.kapal tersebut boleh cair?.
-ada dlm video (alien Engineering) pasal isu ini. saya pulak x reti nak sebut, faham tu mmg paham. :D
jgn citer alien engineering bro...kita citer apa yg ada kat planet earth sahaja dulu...
bukankah ape yg kita relatekan ini berlaku dibumi. :D..

goldtrader
29-03-2008, 01:05 AM
itu yang tgh relate kan tu bro....tu la soalan saya mampu kah US dengan teknologi yang dia ada skg yg unclassified dan classified.....mampukah mereka?..:)

kalau mampu camne ??

kalau tak mampu camne plak ??

Microwave
29-03-2008, 01:05 AM
ini gambo belt pulley !
aku kenal sangat ! :)) :eek:
ha'ah la... patut la macamkenal je... :eek: :))

joelabu
29-03-2008, 01:07 AM
bukankah ape yg kita relatekan ini berlaku dibumi. :D..

mmg lah berlaku kat bumi..cuma "alien engineering"?...no offence..but whats next? "Jin Engineering"?..apa yg dimaksudkan dengan "alien" please define?...pasal antimatter tu aku boleh terima..tapi alien engineering?...

Microwave
29-03-2008, 01:09 AM
mmg lah berlaku kat bumi..cuma "alien engineering"?...no offence..but whats next? "Jin Engineering"?..apa yg dimaksudkan dengan "alien" please define?...pasal antimatter tu aku boleh terima..tapi alien engineering?...
antimatter ni kalau x silap saya diorang ambik dari Alien Engineering la bro.. byk contoh² yg diorang kaji base on "hidden Agenda" ini.. sbb tu saya relatekan dgn UFO.:)

mj12
29-03-2008, 01:10 AM
kalau mampu camne ??

kalau tak mampu camne plak ??

nak ikut sekali la bro...nak usha gak awek2 kat planet lain..ada cun macam fasha ke...:D :D :D

joelabu
29-03-2008, 01:12 AM
antimatter ni kalau x silap saya diorang ambik dari Alien Engineering la bro.. byk contoh² yg diorang kaji base on "hidden Agenda" ini.. sbb tu saya relatekan dgn UFO.:)

tatau la antimatter mana yg ko maksud kn...tapi kat wiki lain pulak..xda nya hidden agenda..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antimatter
theory nyer oleh pakar math/sains dari swiss...

Microwave
29-03-2008, 01:12 AM
Cerita UFO ni dah lama diorang sorokkan.. kenepulak Govement. huhu.. diorang nak simpan, nak kaji dan nak buat kuasa pertahanan atau serangan yg paling canggih berbanding negara lain.. ini la hakikatnya.

Microwave
29-03-2008, 01:14 AM
tatau la antimatter mana yg ko maksud kn...tapi kat wiki lain pulak..xda nya hidden agenda..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antimatter
theory nyer oleh pakar math/sains dari swiss...
wikipedia base on fact. tu yg sukar kita perjelaskan.. sbb hal yg tertutup kita bincangkan disini.

Microwave
29-03-2008, 01:15 AM
History

ANTIMATTER

In December 1928 Paul Dirac developed a relativistic equation for the electron, now known as the Dirac equation. Curiously, the equation was found to have negative-energy solutions in addition to the normal positive ones. This presented a problem, as electrons tend toward the lowest possible energy level; energies of negative infinity are nonsensical. As a way of getting around this, Dirac proposed that the vacuum is filled with a "sea" of negative-energy electrons, the Dirac sea. Any real electrons would therefore have to sit on top of the sea, having positive energy.


Thinking further, Dirac found that a "hole" in the sea would have a positive charge. At first he thought that this was the proton, but Hermann Weyl pointed out that the hole should have the same mass as the electron. The existence of this particle, the positron, was confirmed experimentally in 1932 by Carl D. Anderson. During this period, antimatter was sometimes also known as "contraterrene matter".

Today's Standard Model shows that every particle has an antiparticle, for which each additive quantum number has the negative of the value it has for the normal matter particle. The sign reversal applies only to quantum numbers (properties) which are additive, such as charge, but not to mass, for example. The positron has the opposite charge but the same mass as the electron. For particles whose additive quantum numbers are all zero, the particle may be its own antiparticle; such particles include the photon and the neutral pion.

sumber : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antimatter

fakta ini... tgk tahun bila dia kaji? cuba ingatkan sejarah Tanguska dan kejadian² UFO dibumi. :)

joelabu
29-03-2008, 01:16 AM
wikipedia base on fact. tu yg sukar kita perjelaskan.. sbb hal yg tertutup kita bincangkan disini.

kalau macam tu..susah lah aku na bincang..sbb semua dah tertutup :-$

mj12
29-03-2008, 01:21 AM
sapa2 ada google earth cuba check sini:

Coordinates of Area S4: N 37o 01' 40", W 115o 46' 35"

di kata kan salah satu interchanged program antara US gan Aliens dia bagi sebijik "Sports model" UFO..

x tau lah pulak kalau dia org dah touch up balik google earth dia ..macam kat antartica...ada green valley pun kena touch up..mentang2 US kalah perang...."UNTOLD WAR OF THE ANTARTICA".. :-)

Microwave
29-03-2008, 01:22 AM
kalau macam tu..susah lah aku na bincang..sbb semua dah tertutup :-$
kita bincang utk kita membuka mata kita. dimanakah kemampuan kita ni bro.. :D. xsalah kita sumbangkan pemikiran dgn cara yg baik dari membangkang tak tentu hala. :)

Microwave
29-03-2008, 01:23 AM
sapa2 ada google earth cuba check sini:

Coordinates of Area S4: N 37o 01' 40", W 115o 46' 35"

di kata kan salah satu interchanged program antara US gan Aliens dia bagi sebijik "Sports model" UFO..

x tau lah pulak kalau dia org dah touch up balik google earth dia ..macam kat antartica...ada green valley pun kena touch up..mentang2 US kalah perang...."UNTOLD WAR OF THE ANTARTICA".. :-)
story sket bro.. ade fakta berkaitan tak.:)

mj12
29-03-2008, 01:36 AM
kalau macam tu..susah lah aku na bincang..sbb semua dah tertutup :-$

bro..tgk youtube pasal nuklear power plant Iraq kena bomb dgn jet F-16 Israel...final stage lagi Saddam nak siap kan power plant tu...kurang x kurang ajar nye Israel naik jet F-16 kasi bomb itu power plant...sebab kalau berjaya lah Saddam banyak negara Islam leh dapat teknologi dia alamat tutup banyak lah company US..tenaga letrik yang genarate dari 'nuklear reactor' je...tahan bertahun2...dan banyak sebab2 lain bro..:)

svzzrvN92Pg

mj12
29-03-2008, 01:48 AM
story sket bro.. ade fakta berkaitan tak.:)

check link nie bro...mamat Bob Lazar nie mmg terer bro...dapat keje kat Area S-4 yang Area 51 tu cover up je...tu tempat landing pekerja2 Underground Project2 US 'Black Budget' dari situ baru dia akan transfer ke Utah,S-4...dan sebahagianya ke bunker2 bawah tanah US gov...kalau dulu saya ada terbaca sampai 40 tingkat lah underground facility dia...semuanya bersambung2 dari satu underground base ke underground base lain pakai underground train....leh connected sampai ke white house lagi sebagai salah satu Pres US emergency alternative exit....hehe...:D

mesti semua x caya nyer....:D ..

http://www.gravitywarpdrive.com/Government_Scientist.htm#Copper-Orange%20Fuel%20Pellet

Microwave
29-03-2008, 01:53 AM
check link nie bro...mamat Bob Lazar nie mmg terer bro...dapat keje kat Area S-4 yang Area 51 tu cover up je...tu tempat landing pekerja2 Underground Project2 US 'Black Budget' dari situ baru dia akan transfer ke Utah,S-4...dan sebahagianya ke bunker2 bawah tanah US gov...kalau dulu saya ada terbaca sampai 40 tingkat lah underground facility dia...semuanya bersambung2 dari satu underground base ke underground base lain pakai underground train....leh connected sampai ke white house lagi sebagai salah satu Pres US emergency alternative exit....hehe...:D

mesti semua x caya nyer....:D ..



http://www.gravitywarpdrive.com/Government_Scientist.htm#Copper-Orange%20Fuel%20Pellet
saya dgr citer kerajaan US delete semua education profile dia kan.. semua detail pasal sekolah atau semua detail pendidikan dia dah dihapuskan oleh kerajaan kan.. :). kesian dia ni.

mj12
29-03-2008, 02:04 AM
fakta ini... tgk tahun bila dia kaji? cuba ingatkan sejarah Tanguska dan kejadian² UFO dibumi. :)

so apa yang meletup kat tunguska tu bro?....kalau tgk video Tsar gan Tunguska blast tu sama2 x der crater...letupan besar but sikit pun x kawah dia...berbeza gan lokasi di bawah..besar tu crater kena meteor crash...:)

35° 1'38.76"N, 111° 1'19.79"W

mj12
29-03-2008, 02:13 AM
saya dgr citer kerajaan US delete semua education profile dia kan.. semua detail pasal sekolah atau semua detail pendidikan dia dah dihapuskan oleh kerajaan kan.. :). kesian dia ni.

hah..ah...betul...hehe...nak buat macam ner..Pres JFK pun dia org tembak...pres sendiri bro...banyak laa kena bunuh..salah satu James Forrestal sec of defense siap kena campak kuar tingkap hospital lg...report kata dia bunuh diri!!...kata dia sakit mental...adik beradik pun x leh jumpa.....dia nie kalau ikut story dia dia seorang yang berugama dalam agama dia laa..(Christian Catholic)dia nak reveal everything tapi terpaksa bayar dengan harga yang paling mahal sekali dalam dunia!..

Microwave
29-03-2008, 02:21 AM
so apa yang meletup kat tunguska tu bro?....kalau tgk video Tsar gan Tunguska blast tu sama2 x der crater...letupan besar but sikit pun x kawah dia...berbeza gan lokasi di bawah..besar tu crater kena meteor crash...:)

35° 1'38.76"N, 111° 1'19.79"W
a'ah la bro.. :D ade dlm googleearth

mj12
29-03-2008, 02:50 AM
"'The Illuminati are extremely powerful, very wealthy men. They believe
that they are the guardians of the secrets of the ages. They believe
that the vast majority of people would not know what to do with the
real knowledge and the real truth and the real science -- and would, in
fact, misuse them all. They further believe that everything that they
do is for the ultimate betterment and survival of humankind -- even if
it means killing two billion people to reach their goal...'"


-W. Cooper-

mj12
29-03-2008, 03:32 AM
CLOSE UP UFO

http://www.galactic-server.net/torealf/bms3.jpg

http://www.galactic-server.net/torealf/ufo_117.jpg

http://www.galactic-server.net/torealf/ufo_127.jpg

http://www.galactic-server.net/torealf/ufo_128.jpg

mj12
29-03-2008, 03:57 AM
Pictures from Mars

Pictures taken from Mars orbiting satellites showing vegetation, water and cities. The implication of this is that the official scientific picture about the planet is wrong, and that the planet have higher atmospheric pressure and is much more inhabitable than the official view



Mystical prints in sand
http://mars.galactic.to/M1.jpg

A second face
http://mars.galactic.to/M2.jpg

Mystic prints on stone1
http://mars.galactic.to/M3.jpg

Mystic prints on stone2
http://mars.galactic.to/M4.jpg

Mystic prints on stone 3
http://mars.galactic.to/M6.jpg

Strange vehicle
http://mars.galactic.to/M7.jpg

Strange vehicle 2
http://mars.galactic.to/M8.jpg

Strange object
http://mars.galactic.to/M16.jpg

Bush plants
http://mars.galactic.to/M9.jpg

City and agricultural area
http://mars.galactic.to/M10.jpg

Building
http://mars.galactic.to/M11.jpg

Buildings
http://mars.galactic.to/M12.jpg

mj12
29-03-2008, 04:05 AM
dan lagii....


Ancient city

http://mars.galactic.to/M13.jpg


Ancient city 2

http://mars.galactic.to/M14.jpg


Skull from dead animal

http://mars.galactic.to/M15.jpg


Strange object

http://mars.galactic.to/M31.jpg


Strange object

http://mars.galactic.to/M35.jpg


Dead animal and object

http://mars.galactic.to/M36.jpg


Stone with writing

http://mars.galactic.to/M25.jpg


Strange objects

http://mars.galactic.to/M34.jpg

mj12
29-03-2008, 04:19 AM
dan lagi.....


Dome with light

http://mars.galactic.to/M21.jpg



Dome 2

http://mars.galactic.to/M22.jpg



UFOs

http://mars.galactic.to/M30.jpg



Big city

http://mars.galactic.to/M43.jpg



Grass

http://mars.galactic.to/M17.jpg



Forest and lake

http://mars.galactic.to/M18.jpg



Forrest and lake 2

http://mars.galactic.to/M19.jpg


Forrest and lakes

http://mars.galactic.to/M20.jpg

Microwave
29-03-2008, 12:29 PM
perh.. giler la gamba.. mane dapat ni bro?

mynor5535101
29-03-2008, 12:55 PM
MJ12 mari kita bincangkan pasal topik ini

Physicist Hal Puthoff1 has recently suggested that the ability of a spacecraft to modify the properties of space in its immediate vicinity could allow it to travel faster than light. This is because the speed of light is simply a measure of two properties of the medium of space, or the vacuum: permeability and permittivity. It has been tacitly assumed by some theoreticians that the speed of light might be a measure not only of the electrical properties of space, but the mechanical properties of space as well. It now turns out that this is probably not the case!

A very exciting possibility has now come into the light. It has long been known that gravitational forces apparently act instantaneously over the entire universe. Why this should be so is simply glossed over and ignored in every generation of physics classes and in countless technical papers.

One way to understand this is to consider what is called "the classical aberration of light"-which was discovered by Bradley in 1728. In fact, aberration data became one of the early methods for measuring the speed of light. Light from the sun requires 8.3 minutes to travel from the sun to the earth during which time the sun and the earth have moved as much as 20 arc seconds with respect to each other.

Similarly, light from the stars arrives at an angle which can be as much as 20 arc seconds because the earth is moving with respect to the stars. It is by carefully measuring these aberration angles, and knowing the relative velocities involved, that Bradley made excellent and trustworthy measurements of the velocity of light 250 years ago.

However, during the time interval it takes light to travel from the sun to the earth, the sun and the earth have kept in touch with each other "instantaneously"-or at least very much faster than c! In fact every mass in the universe communicates with all other masses in the universe in a time frame that makes the present speed of light seem like the velocity of molasses on a cold day!

Astronomer Tom Van Flandern has recently detailed all the evidence that shows that gravitational forces, unlike light, operate with no measurable aberration!2

But Van Flandern shows that there are sound reasons for believing that the "speed of gravity" is not infinite. By carefully studying the observable data, Van Flandern now concludes that the speed of gravity is greater than or equal to the present speed of light by a factor of 2 x 1010.

This velocity (6 x 1018 meters per second) turns out to be just below Barry Setterfield's latest estimate of the speed of light everywhere in the universe on Day Two of creation week! Setterfield arrives at this initial velocity of light on the basis of the maximum observed Hubble constant, which gives an initial value of c that turns out to be 2.54 x 1010 times the present value.3

Since creation week, the diameter of the universe has been constant (a static universe) and the speed of light has dropped precipitously to its present value-following decay curves we can now piece together with some confidence based on (a) measured values of c for the last 300 years, (b) corrections to known radioactive decay dates which go back to approximately 2000 B.C., and (c) the observed quantization of the red shift of light from distant galaxies for the time period from creation to about the time of Abraham.

As the universe aged, the free space permittivity and permeability increased and c decreased - but the velocity of gravity may not be tied to the permittivity and permeability of free space!

If this is the case, the velocity of gravity stayed at the original velocity of c. If we can produce a propulsion system based on gravitational principles rather than electromagnetic or chemical ones, we could travel at absolutely enormous speeds-we could hope to push a space craft anywhere in the universe, very literally at warp speeds beyond what even the Starship Enterprise could produce!

By the way, this discussion solely relates to the physical part of the created universe. For now we must defer discussion about how angels travel and communicate - they are spiritual beings. And we must postpone speculation about what we followers of Jesus the Lord may find ourselves capable of doing when we don our new resurrection bodies (these bodies are, after all, "not of this creation"-but spiritual bodies-see 1 Corinthians 15).

If Van Flandern and Setterfield are correct, space travel may indeed be just around the corner! A fringe benefit is that we may at last have clues to help us begin to understand the well-documented behavior of countless UFOs, whose velocity and acceleration behavior has thus far defied explanation by conventional physics.

mj12
29-03-2008, 01:45 PM
perh.. giler la gamba.. mane dapat ni bro?

:D dah minat bro....godek lah selagi mau...pernah saya terbaca Nazi yang samapi dulu kat Mar as early 1942...dia buat tiny base kat sana pakai antigravity craft dia Haunebu 5(gambar seperti di bawah tapi di bawah nie Haunebu 4) tapi it's a one way ticket kalau sampai mmg x leh balik la...mmg dulu ada dapat tgk gambar Haunebu 5 dan kat sebelah dia siap ada tank Panzer lagi..tapi x bookmark lak web tu...tu yang Allied kena mng war dengan Nazi nie WW2..sebab US ketinggalan dari sedikit dari Nazi pada waktu tu..dia menang dia celok semua ilmu kawan nie pi bawak balik US study balik....:D

http://www.rusring.net/~levin/levin3d/haunebu4_1.jpg

mj12
29-03-2008, 01:48 PM
MJ12 mari kita bincangkan pasal topik ini

Physicist Hal Puthoff1 has recently suggested that the ability of a spacecraft to modify the properties of space in its immediate vicinity could allow it to travel faster than light. This is because the speed of light is simply a measure of two properties of the medium of space, or the vacuum: permeability and permittivity. It has been tacitly assumed by some theoreticians that the speed of light might be a measure not only of the electrical properties of space, but the mechanical properties of space as well. It now turns out that this is probably not the case!

A very exciting possibility has now come into the light. It has long been known that gravitational forces apparently act instantaneously over the entire universe. Why this should be so is simply glossed over and ignored in every generation of physics classes and in countless technical papers.

One way to understand this is to consider what is called "the classical aberration of light"-which was discovered by Bradley in 1728. In fact, aberration data became one of the early methods for measuring the speed of light. Light from the sun requires 8.3 minutes to travel from the sun to the earth during which time the sun and the earth have moved as much as 20 arc seconds with respect to each other.

Similarly, light from the stars arrives at an angle which can be as much as 20 arc seconds because the earth is moving with respect to the stars. It is by carefully measuring these aberration angles, and knowing the relative velocities involved, that Bradley made excellent and trustworthy measurements of the velocity of light 250 years ago.

However, during the time interval it takes light to travel from the sun to the earth, the sun and the earth have kept in touch with each other "instantaneously"-or at least very much faster than c! In fact every mass in the universe communicates with all other masses in the universe in a time frame that makes the present speed of light seem like the velocity of molasses on a cold day!

Astronomer Tom Van Flandern has recently detailed all the evidence that shows that gravitational forces, unlike light, operate with no measurable aberration!2

But Van Flandern shows that there are sound reasons for believing that the "speed of gravity" is not infinite. By carefully studying the observable data, Van Flandern now concludes that the speed of gravity is greater than or equal to the present speed of light by a factor of 2 x 1010.

This velocity (6 x 1018 meters per second) turns out to be just below Barry Setterfield's latest estimate of the speed of light everywhere in the universe on Day Two of creation week! Setterfield arrives at this initial velocity of light on the basis of the maximum observed Hubble constant, which gives an initial value of c that turns out to be 2.54 x 1010 times the present value.3

Since creation week, the diameter of the universe has been constant (a static universe) and the speed of light has dropped precipitously to its present value-following decay curves we can now piece together with some confidence based on (a) measured values of c for the last 300 years, (b) corrections to known radioactive decay dates which go back to approximately 2000 B.C., and (c) the observed quantization of the red shift of light from distant galaxies for the time period from creation to about the time of Abraham.

As the universe aged, the free space permittivity and permeability increased and c decreased - but the velocity of gravity may not be tied to the permittivity and permeability of free space!

If this is the case, the velocity of gravity stayed at the original velocity of c. If we can produce a propulsion system based on gravitational principles rather than electromagnetic or chemical ones, we could travel at absolutely enormous speeds-we could hope to push a space craft anywhere in the universe, very literally at warp speeds beyond what even the Starship Enterprise could produce!

By the way, this discussion solely relates to the physical part of the created universe. For now we must defer discussion about how angels travel and communicate - they are spiritual beings. And we must postpone speculation about what we followers of Jesus the Lord may find ourselves capable of doing when we don our new resurrection bodies (these bodies are, after all, "not of this creation"-but spiritual bodies-see 1 Corinthians 15).

If Van Flandern and Setterfield are correct, space travel may indeed be just around the corner! A fringe benefit is that we may at last have clues to help us begin to understand the well-documented behavior of countless UFOs, whose velocity and acceleration behavior has thus far defied explanation by conventional physics.

bro check link nie...:)

dia explain in details:>http://boblazar.com/closed/index.html

ajax932
29-03-2008, 01:48 PM
Percaya benda2 gini boleh menjana imaginasi minda....

Yg xboleh pun akan cuba dibolehkan...

Bagus juga utk hala tuju kajian sains...

mj12
29-03-2008, 01:50 PM
nie Haunebu 2


http://www.geocities.com/unicraftmodels/germ/haunebu/haunebu-box.jpg

mj12
29-03-2008, 01:51 PM
Percaya benda2 gini boleh menjana imaginasi minda....

Yg xboleh pun akan cuba dibolehkan...

Bagus juga utk hala tuju kajian sains...

:D ..hehe....dah minat bro...:D

mj12
29-03-2008, 01:56 PM
video pasal Haunebu & Vril Nazi Antigrativy Disc

UKZpNBYFajI

by3Q2jzeJKY&feature=related

hv4uyjkEKsU&feature=related

mj12
29-03-2008, 02:24 PM
Ada pernah saya berbual gan mmber yang belajar physic..saya saja tanya dia ada ke atomic no Element115(Uup115)..dia kata x der sbb apa yang dia belajar sampai Uup109 je....saya rasa ada 2 sebab la...1.)mugkin US gov x release ilmu ttg "superheavy element"(Uup115) ilmu utk dia dulu..2.)Atomic number nie adalah "superheavy element" yang paling stabil dari yang lain nya..

di faham kan kat bumi pun x der Uup115 nie...apa yang ada di bumi hanyalah sampai Uup112 je(yg pakai kt reactor nuklear yang ada kat bumi nie)

kalau tersilap maaf je lah ya... saya budak baru belaja.. :)

mj12
29-03-2008, 02:37 PM
nie articel pasal Tunguska..

Tunguska ... a 40 megaton atom bomb in 1908..!!??

WHAT LIES BEHIND THE TUNGUSKA EXPLOSION?
Four years from now, 30 June 2008, will be the 100th anniversary of one of the most mysterious catastrophes: the explosion of a body from space near the Podkamennaya (or Stony) Tunguska River in Siberia. There can scarcely have been another event in the past century to compare with it. The total power of the explosion exceeded the combined power of the atomic bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki more than 2,000 times over! Apart from that, the Tunguska explosion caused:


• an anomalous glow in the sky that was observed as late as 10 days afterwards, and the intense appearance of silvery clouds;
• massive radiation of light and heat;
• disruption of the normal functioning of meteorological instruments and the appearance of surface earth tremors;
• a tremendous sound wave that travelled twice around the globe;
• the felling of trees over an enormous area of over 2,000 square kilometres;
• weak traces of radioactivity, detected in tree samples and the polar ice layers dating from 1908;
• anomalous properties of the soil and minerals in the area of the Tunguska explosion;
• the unusually rapid growth of vegetation at the epicentre of the Tunguska explosion;
• cooling of the Earth's climate in the following few years.

Despite the fact that such a tremendous event did not go unnoticed, the first attempts to discover what had actually occurred in the remote Siberian taiga were only made many years later, in 1927. Since then, dozens of research expeditions have visited the area, hundreds of scientific papers have been written and several hundred hypotheses put forward about the causes of the event. Not one of them, however, has been able to explain fully the complex phenomena that preceded and accompanied the Tunguska explosion. Some of the phenomena observed by eyewitnesses simply do not fit within the framework of existing theories. Much of what happened then cannot be interpreted at all from the standpoint of present-day scientific thinking.

More than that, one gets the persistent impression that we have come up against something completely outside the bounds of our customary understanding of the world about us. Perhaps today we are closer than ever before to a solution to the mystery that will become a turning point in the development of human consciousness. But it will require a certain boldness, the ability to look with an open mind untrammelled by the dogmas current in science in order to properly assess the most inexplicable episodes of the event.


The work carried out by generations of scientists and researchers provided us with a very rich stock of facts and scientific material, making it possible to shed light on the true causes and nature of the phenomena that took place almost 100 years ago in the area of the Podkamennaya Tunguska.


We shall not go over the key elements of each of the main known hypotheses here, but instead concentrate on those facts that have always remained in the shadows and for some strange reason have never been given the attention they deserve. Amazingly, taken together with an ancient epic poem, these facts present a completely different picture of the event that took place early in the last century.


At the very beginning of this study, we should stress that both before and after the Tunguska explosion there were several other events connected with it in a certain way, being links in a single chain. Therefore, using the methods employed in criminal investigations, we shall combine them in a single "case". In order to see the reality that has for so long escaped the eyes of researchers, we shall have to shift our gaze backwards and forwards in space and time to look at events separated by tens, even hundreds of years.

(from Plejadisch-plejarische Kontaktberichte [2002], Block 1 page 311- the german org.txt down buttom. And "gaiaguys" unofficial English translation follows:)

"...87.This actually also soon happened according to the decree of this regulation, when a huge space ship still in the terrestrial area was not able to free itself anymore from earth, where it had lain hidden during several months, with severe technical damage, in the country which is called Russia. 88. The ship was able to lift itself up for only a few hundred meters of high preparatory work and then dropped down more closely. 89. In accordance with the regulation that no spaceships, etc. were allowed to approach the earth more closely, each outside assistance was also impossible. 90. Other races from the universe stationed on the earth were, on the other hand, forbidden to bring the damaged ship assistance because among the crew a terrestrial epidemic had broken out, which was very dangerous for this form of life. 91. In the knowledge that no more assistance awaited them, they designed an enormous bomb from the foundation-stones of life, which are called atoms, forced the ship as far as possible into the sky up and let it then simply fall down. 92. Like an enormous comet it fell towards the earth, and before it could strike the earth, at a few hundred meters height the atomic bomb was ignited. 93. An enormous explosion tore the ship and the crew up, turned everything to dust and destroyed the landscape. 94. From everything only a giant crater remained, which is called erroneously by your scientists a meteor crater. 95. More than 4,300 life forms of extraterrestrial origin were destroyed during this gigantic destruction, which only leads back to the terrestrial Christian cult, because the actual reason for this destruction was the insanity of this terrestrial religion."

mj12
29-03-2008, 02:38 PM
HOWEVER - IF WHAT the DAL/pleiadian contactperson "Asket" told Meier(first part)- that this was the last desperate act or a kind "collective suicide because all onboard was infeced of a death-disease got on earth" - of an ET-group with a ship not capable of leaving Earth. Yes - if this is correct -it is likely that they had probes/lesser ships that may have been the other flying crafts observed before the mainexplosion occured.

(suppose they also tried to avoid that their ship and other high-tech would be found of the martial earthpeople and used in war-purpose - remember this was before ww1/in 1908. And because they could not not leave from here because of technical problems - and they all were infected by the deathillnes - their "sollution" was to destroy all of thir heightech - before it could be misused of earthmen)

**

But then more on the "things" that happend just before the big detonation as here researched and found - more flying objects:

In the extract from the article here of Valery Uvarov - he called them "terminators":

JUST BEFORE THE EXPLOSION..there were several objects moving in the sky above the Siberian taiga, approaching the explosion site from different sides. It was the discrepancies in the accounts of eyewitnesses—who at one and the same time observed objects above areas of Siberia far remote from one another, moving on different courses but towards a single point—that confused researchers, prompting the hypothesis that it was probably a spaceship that had been manoeuvring above the Siberian taiga.

One witness to these events was next to a small lake when the ground started to shake beneath his feet. Something like an earthquake began. Suddenly, down inside him, an inexplicable, inhuman sense of fear arose. It was as if some force was driving him away from the lake. At that moment, the water in the lake began to drop down, and as it flowed away, as if into a crack, the bottom appeared which was shifting apart like two leaves. Indentations could be seen on the edges of the two gigantic leaves. The witness was seized by an impulsive animal terror and fled as fast as his legs could carry him.


After running a considerable distance, he tripped on a bush and fell; and when he got to his feet and looked back, he saw rising from what had been the lake a column of bright light, at the top of which appeared a ball. All this was accompanied by a terrible roaring and humming. His clothing began to smoulder, the radiation burnt his face and ears…

Eyewitness Testimony
This is the account of G. K. Kulesh, who was an observer at a weather station in Kirensk, about 460 kilometres from the site of the Tunguska explosion:
On 30 June an unusual phenomenon was observed to the northwest of Kirensk that lasted roughly from 7.15 to 8 am. I did not see it myself, as I sat down to work after recording the reading of the meteorological instruments. This is what occurred (I give the gist of what those who witnessed it said).
At 7.15 am, a fiery pillar appeared to the northwest, about four sagens [over 8 metres] in diameter in the shape of a spear. When the pillar disappeared, five strong brief bangs were heard, like cannon shots following quickly and distinctly one after another. Then a dense cloud appeared at that place.

About 15 minutes later, the same sort of bangs were heard again; another 15 minutes later they were repeated. The ferryman, a former soldier and generally an intelligent, worldly-wise man, counted 14 bangs in three groups. His duties meant he was on the riverbank and saw and heard the whole phenomenon from start to finish. [author's Valery Uvarovs emphasis in bold italics]


Many people saw the pillar of fire, but the bangs were heard by an even greater number. There were peasants in town from the village of Korelinaya that lies 20 versts [21 km] from Kirensk on the nearest Tunguska. They reported that they had had a powerful earth tremor such that window panes were broken in the houses…the mark on the barograph roll bears this out.


In the archives of the former Irkutsk Magnetic and Meteorological Observatory, investigators managed to find notes written by A. K. Kokorin, who was an observer at a weather station on the River Kezhma, about 600 km from the Tunguska explosion site. In his observation journal for June 1908, the section headed "Notes" contains an exceptionally important entry. It shows that there was certainly more than one body in the air at that time.


At 7 am, two fiery circles [spheres] of gigantic size appeared to the north; 4 minutes after appearing, the circles disappeared; soon after the disappearance of the fiery circles a loud noise was heard, similar to the sound of the wind, that went from north to south; the noise lasted about 5 minutes; then followed sounds and thundering, like shots from enormous guns, that made the windows rattle. Those shots continued for 2 minutes, and after them came a crack like a rifle-shot. These last sounds lasted 2 minutes. Everything took place in broad daylight.

At that time, T. Naumenko was observing the flight of a sphere from the village of Kezhma which stands on the River Angara. He asserted that the body was larger than the Moon and crossed in front of the Sun, which at that time was at a height of 27º above the horizon. At that same moment, the Tunguska meteorite flew over the village of Mironovo (58º 14' N, 109º 29' E).


The first to see the flight of one of the "terminators"(thus may be lesser scoutships they used in the operation-before the "collective suicide"-rø-remark) - carrying a powerful electromagnetic charge - were the inhabitants of the village of Alexandrovka (southern Altai territory), which is almost 1,500 kilometres away from the site of the explosion.
The account left by Ivan Nikanorovich Kudriavtsev, who witnessed the flight of the fiery sphere, contains details pointing to the electromagnetic nature of the "terminator":
...30 June 1908 was a clear day… I was sitting opposite a window looking NW. Our village, Alexandrovka, extended along a gorge… Across from the village on the Semi ridge rose the peak of Mount Gliaden. At 7 in the morning, the Sun had already risen but not yet appeared from behind Gliaden.

And then suddenly a bright sphere appeared in the sky; it rapidly grew in size and brightness. It was flying towards the NW. The flying sphere was the size of the Moon, only brighter; not dazzlingly bright, though: you could watch its flight without looking away. It flew very quickly. The sphere left behind it on its course a white smoky trail wider than the sphere itself. As soon as this sphere appeared, the whole locality was lit up by some unnatural light and that light did not increase evenly, but with some sort of fluctuations, wave-like flashes. There was no noise, no roar accompanying the sphere's flight, but the unnatural fluctuating light inspired some sort of fear, anxiety... [author's emphasis]


Ye. Sarychev, questioned by D. F. Landsberg in Kansk on 11 October 1921, said:
With the start of the noise a sort of glow appeared in the air, round in shape, about half the size of the Moon, with a bluish tinge, flying rapidly in a direction from Filimonovo towards Irkutsk. The glow left a trail in the form of a pale bluish stripe that extended almost the full length of its course, then gradually vanished from the end. The glow hid itself behind the mountain without breaking up. I was unable to note the duration of the phenomenon, but it was very short. The weather was absolutely clear and it was still.

At that same time, the flight of a heavenly body was observed in the south of the Krasnoyarsk territory, 60 km north of Minusinsk, 930 km from the site of the explosion, but moving along a different trajectory. Roughly at the same time, an object was seen in the region of the Nizhneye-Ilimskoye settlement, 418 km from the explosion site. And then, it has been reliably established, a heavenly body flew over the village of Preobrazhenka, which is on the Nizhniaya (Lower) Tunguska River. And all these objects were flying in the same direction—towards one destination: the Shishkov and Kulik blast areas and Voronov's crater!

mj12
29-03-2008, 02:39 PM
The picture that forms from eyewitness accounts clearly shows that the objects observed from various parts of the taiga could not have been meteorites. There were many of them and they followed different trajectories, but towards a single point. Amazingly, the scientists and researchers who so carefully questioned numerous witnesses were unable to spot in their accounts any difference between the behaviour of the meteorite and that of the "terminator spheres" that closed in large numbers from different directions in order to destroy it. It is a well known fact that the flight of a meteorite through the atmosphere is always very short (a matter of seconds) and very fast (between 6 and 22 km per second), at an angle to the Earth's surface along a straight trajectory, leaving a trail of fire and smoke that extends for 200 to 300 km and takes some tens of minutes to disperse.

The reports of researchers and explanations of scientists speak of a single Tunguska object. Yet the eyewitness accounts of the event itself and the evidence gathered by researchers stubbornly indicate that there were several objects in the sky, following different trajectories from different directions, but most significantly moving slowly, parallel to the Earth's surface, sometimes stopping, changing course and speed—in other words, manoeuvring—which entirely excludes the suggestion that the objects seen were comets or meteorites. Meteorites and comets do not fly like that!


Thousands of observers could not have mistaken what they saw, as the sky was cloudless that morning. People living within a radius of over 800 km from the place where the cosmic intruder fell observed the unusual flight of enormous fiery bodies giving off sparks and leaving rainbow trails behind them. The most important point, though, is that they did not all see one and the same object, but different "terminator spheres" that varied in appearance and behaviour.


Below is an extract from the account of a witness who lived in the village of Moga on the Nizhniaya Tunguska, 300 km east of the site of the explosion. It was quoted in Yury Sbitnev's book Echo and speaks for itself.


…I remember that time well—I was eleven then. I got up quite early… It was clear and cloudless… Our house was here, where it still stands, on a hill. I was hammering the scythe.
There I was hitting the scythe, but the sound seemed to come from elsewhere. I froze and as I listened, a real din started. The sky was clear as can be, not a cloud in sight. There were no planes or helicopters back then, of course. It was only later we became familiar with them. But there was this din. It wasn't like a thunderstorm. And it kept building up, rumbling louder…


Suddenly a second sun rolled into the sky. "Ours", that's to say, was beating down on the back of my head, and this one was in my eyes. I couldn't look; everything went black. I shot into the house and that new sun shone in through this window here and moved across the stove like this…
The house stood, like the majority of Russian houses on the northern rivers, with its windows looking east and south. One little window faced northwest and this "sun" was shining through it, colouring the white wall of the big Russian stove crimson. This glow moved from right to left, towards the east. And there was ordinary sunlight coming through the other windows and onto the other wall of the stove.


I looked at the sun blazing down on the stove through that window and my jaw dropped. I had never seen anything like it. And the noise kept on rumbling. There was no relief. My grandfather sat on the stove and began chanting a prayer out loud. He chanted and told me, "Stiopa, let's pray! All of you pray! It's happened… It's come…" [The shamans had warned people about the end of the world.]
What praying? I wanted to run somewhere and there was nowhere. The noise was all around. And a fiery ball was coming at us. It kept creeping across the stove… And then it stopped…


The fiery sphere that appeared in a clear, cloudless sky approached the earth with a growing rumble. It grew as you watched, blazed and became so full of powerful fiery light that it was impossible to look at it. At some elusive instant, the terrible rumbling turned into an incessant roar and the sphere stopped moving, hanging above the ground, like the Sun hangs above the horizon just before sunset. It is hard to establish the length of time it stopped, but the fiery sphere stayed motionless long enough for its immobility to impress itself upon an astounded human mind.


I was afraid to look out of the window, but on the stove I could see that it had stopped. Then suddenly it gave such a burst of speed, flashed across the stove and was gone. The thundering noise was awful. The earth shook. I was knocked to the floor and the glass from the little window was scattered about as if someone had pushed it in… I wasn't down on the floor for long. I jumped up, thinking, "Where's Grandpa? Don't say he's been knocked off!" He was lying on his stomach on the very edge of the stove and kept asking me, "Stiopa, what is it? Stiopa, what is it?" He was wet and white, white… I think the ground was still shaking, the floor shifted under my feet, or perhaps my legs were trembling. It was dreadful!


...Nobody could understand where it had got to, that sun. It had been shining just a moment before. And so strong that the shadows disappeared instantly. And the light, clashing with light, stripped the world of its familiar, pleasant shapes. Everything, from the smallest blade of grass to the cedar tree, suddenly seemed different from how it had always been. Colours vanished; so did the usual three-dimensionality of the world, warmth, tenderness. Our world had gone…

mj12
29-03-2008, 02:40 PM
Judging by the details of this account, the narrator was very close to a place where a "terminator sphere" had been generated; in other words, in the immediate proximity of one of the pillars of energy (fiery whirlwinds) delivering the "terminator" to the surface.
The account recorded by Sbytnev includes this important element:
Someone saw a fiery pillar as well going down from that fireball, and for an instant there appeared a sort of huge tree with a round, fiery crown. Someone noticed that this raging bundle of light spat out, as it were, one more ball that tore earthwards. Others, though, insisted there had been no second ball, but that blaze, that sun, itself hurled itself down slantwise.


Many saw it and there were many different versions. But everyone was agreed that the movement of that mysterious fiery body stopped and it hung motionless for a time above the ground. And there was a roaring… And then there was something like an explosion—the ground shaking and a rapid movement away, taking off, and the same rumbling, but now dying down, and the fading of the raging fire—less and less, until you could barely make it out in the vast white expanse of sky. Then it was gone and the thunder dropped, lessened and disappeared altogether… It was there—and flew away..

mj12
29-03-2008, 02:45 PM
US ANTIGRAVITY DISC DOCKING AT NAFB

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mj12
29-03-2008, 02:53 PM
MORE ON NAZI'S DISC

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Microwave
29-03-2008, 03:00 PM
Tapak pelancaran..
saksikan video ini pula.. :)
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Thanks for the info Bro MJ.. ;)

mj12
29-03-2008, 03:01 PM
Why they - the world leaders and the military - keeps secret of the ufos.

"Almost all the secrets have to do with the past of our planet, the history and the origin of humanity (how and where?), the reason for our being here, the so-called UFOs and the consequences thereof (UFOs = Unknown Flying Objects, the common name for flying devices with two counter-rotating magnetic fields, mostly cigar- or saucer-shaped and of terrestrial or extraterrestrial origin).

I presume that the word UFO is not welcome to some. That is why it is so important to be open for new things! And the subject of UFOs is not new, on the contrary. People in Europe have been just as misinformed as everyone else upon this Earth where UFOs are concerned. And that again has to do with the Illuminati who control the media!

Especially here in Germany. I would like to give here an example to show just how real and earthly the background to this phenomenon can be:

Beside the "THULE-GESELLSCHAFT" (Thule Society) which will be described in detail later, there was another secret order in the Third Reich, the "VRIL-GESELLSCHAFT". This was mainly occupied with the building of UFOs. They had, next to Viktor Schauberger and Dr. W. 0. Schumann, also Schriever, Habermohl, Miethe, Epp and Belluzo working for them, whose developments will perhaps be remembered by the British and American pilots still alive as "Foo Fighters".

Their developments was greatly accelerated after according to them - an "extraterrestrial" saucer went down in the Black Forest in 1936 and was hardly damaged. After having scrupulously studied the drive and having joined the findings to the already enormous body of know-ledge of the "Vril-Gesellschaft" about implosion and antigravity - they started to build their own prototypes. Developments like the "vril-7" (V7), a disc-shaped supersonic helicopter (not to be confounded with the V1 and V2 cruise missiles) were so astounding that today's stealth bombers look like toys in comparison.



The Vril-7 developed by Richard Miethe for example and equipped with twelve BMW 028 turbo-units reached in a test flight in Peenemunde on February 14, 1944 in vertical take-off the height of 24,200 metres and in horizontal flight a speed of 2,200 km/h. By the end of 1942 several units of the circular aircraft RFZ 6 with the name "Haunebu II" had already been built. It had a diameter of 32 metres and a height at the central axis of 11 metres and near the ground it reached a speed of over 6,000 km/h. It had an operational range of 55 hours, took off vertically and could fly horizontally, vertically and - most importantly - manoeuvre at right angles (a movement typical of all the UFOs observed all over the world).

(No - all this is not imagination - just watch the videoproduction UFOs -SECRETS OF THE THIRD REICH and also the confirmations from the ET-group from Erra - the contacts of BillyMeier. R.Ø.remark)

Later Vril developments were even more successful, as early as the beginning of 1945 they succeeded in flying around the globe in a few hours. A large-capacity version of the Haunebu II had a dia-meter of 120 metres and had integrated sleeping quarters. Just think why one would need sleeping quarters if one could fly around the world in a few hours? (More about the 'Vril-Gesellschaft" and its developments in the chapter named accordingly).

Many will now ask: "Why did Hitler not win the war if he had technologies like these at his disposal?" The reason is that although a large number of these flying disks showed incredible performance, yet they were well high unusable in a military context. The reason was that the magnetic field produced by the levitation drive acted like a protective shield around the craft and, while it rendered it almost impossible to shoot down, was almost impossible for the conventional" weapons carried to penetrate without "friction".

mj12
29-03-2008, 03:01 PM
The projects were under the supervision of the "Vril-Gesellschaft" and of the SS E IV (Secret IDevelopment Centre for Alternative Energy of the SS), i.e. they were not directly under Hitler's and the NSDAP's orders and basically were not planned for war use. Only later when Germany's situation deteriorated did one think about using the flying disks in the war.

Another reason is that most people have no idea what Hitler's real aims were, where he had been educated, of which lodges he was a member, whose ideology he adopted, who put him in his position, who financed him and what reasons there were behind the Second World War. Hitler's ideology had nothing to do with what we call today the "general reality" and with what is told about the Third Reich in schoolbooks. Hitler was a mystic and an occultist down to his shoes, and to understand what happened in the Third Reich one has to look at it from this viewpoint, too.

To most "materialists" among the historians, the Nuremberg Trials were a mixture of Grimm's fairy tales and stories from the mentally sick, because they were unable to think themselves into the roles of the defendants, nor had they the necessary knowledge to understand the stories these people told. Dieter Ruggeberg puts this very aptly: "Only an occultist can recognize an occultist!"

The chapters about the "Thule-Gesellschaft" and the Vril-Gesellschaft" will explain the ideology of these people in more detail. Hitler and his secret societies knew a lot more about the origin of humanity, the structure of the Earth, antigravity and "free energy" than we are taught today. That is also why all writings and books that could divulge this knowledge were removed or banned by the Allies, to ensure that humanity will remain easily manipulated.

The Allies' main interest were the technologies of the Vril-Gesellschaft". These were the best-kept secrets of the Third Reich. The Russian got their hands on the construction designs first, the scientists like Viktor Schauberger and Wernher von Braun became - in the operation "Paperclip" - the prey (bytte) of the Americans. The resulting developments of flying machines are under the highest security rating of the U.S. of A. They were also the reason why J. F. Kennedy had to die (see the chapter "The Kennedy Assassination").

There were though quite different experiments conducted in the Third Reich which would all but destroy the views of the world so far erected by the readers if given here. Therefore they will later be treated separately.

Why have most people never heard about these things? For instance about the founding of the German state "Neuschwabenland" (New Swabia) in the Antarctic during the Second World War? And why did U.S. admiral Richard E. Byrd require almost 4,000 armed troops, an aircraft carrier and full military support when he went to explore the Antarctic? And why did only a few hundred of them return? Many open questions.

Why have only few people heard of these things, or of the developments of NIKOLA TESLA, among which were free energy machines, energy transfer without cables, antigravitation and the changing of the weather by the aimed use of "standing waves"? What consequences would the knowledge about free energy forms and about the use of flying saucers, which only use a magnetic field for an energy source, have? Especially if every citizen would have access to it, for their cars for example? No more "Fill'er up!"

No pollutants, no pollution of the environment. No nuclear power stations any more, people could no longer be kept locked within the boundaries of a country, and we all would have more free time because we wouldn't have to work to pay for heating, petrol and electricity (in this time one could think a lot, perhaps about the meaning of life). And these energy forms exist. The have been existing for at least ninety years and have been kept secret all this time (more in "Further Reading").

mj12
29-03-2008, 03:02 PM
Why were they kept secret?

Because people on this Earth are controlled by energy, food and the retention (tilbakeholdelse) of knowledge. If the knowledge about these things and their use would be available to all, the Illuminati or other egotists could no longer play their power game. Churches, sects and drugs would lose their importance. Therefore it is imperative for the Illuminati to keep these things from the rest of the world, in order to feed their greed and their ego with their might.

This was a side trip just to show that the UFO theme is more explosive and real than many would have it. The "strategy of ridicule" used by the Anglo-American establishment has so far cost several billion dollars, just to denigrate the UFO theme by the mass media successfully.

On top of that: The first law in a secret lodge is never to be mentioned publicly, even saying the lodge name by a lodge brother is punishable by death in certain cases (in the "99 lodge" for example).

In the secret school of Pythagoras pronouncing the last theorem (læresetning), the "octagon" was also punishable by death. The octagon is an important key to understanding the "Merkabah" (the human geometric magnetic field) and is therefore "illuminating", that means a solution to our problems. (Mer-ka-bah = two counter-rotating light fields, which transport both body and spirit = dematerialization and teleportation of the body)

Secrecy is a proper power. It allows the execution of operations without them being hindered by legal entanglements or potential opponents, and it also fosters the interchange of higher knowledge among the knowing.

mj12
29-03-2008, 03:02 PM
How the central bank in America was made private - see more on link here and the speech from the video on link here - under NEW WORLD ORDER button.

Towards the end of the 19th century the banks controlled by the Rothschilds started a big campaign to get the rich American economy under their control. Around 1900 the Rothschilds sent a further agent to the U.S., PAUL WARBURG, to collaborate with the banking firm of Kuhn Loeb & Co. Take note of this name, he was yet to interlink many more organizations! JACOB SCHIFF and PAUL WARBURG started a campaign for the creation of the FEDERAL RESERVE BANK as an established private central bank in America.

In 1907 Jacob Schiff said before the New York Chamber of Commerce:

"If we don't get a central bank with sufficient credit control, this country will experience the most severe and far-reaching financial panic in its history." (Des Griffin: "Descent Into Slavery").

No sooner said than done. They went on to hurl the U.S. into a monetary crisis the resulting panic at the financial market of which ruined the lives of tens of thousands of people all over the country. The panic at the New York stock exchange brought the Rothschild's - quite apart from a profit of several billion US$ - the success they hoped for. Cunningly planned, the panic was used as an argument for the establishment of a central bank to stave off similar occurrences. Paul Warburg then told the bank and currency committee:

"In the Panic of 1907, the first suggestion I was 'let us have a national clearing house' (Central Bank)." (Gary Allen: "None Dare Call It Conspiracy").

The final version of the decision to introduce the FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM (the private central bank of the U.S.) was conceived on J. P. Morgan's estate on Jekyll Island, Georgia. According to H. G. Dorsey the meeting was attended by A. Piatt Andrew, Senator Nelson Aldrich, Frank Vanderlip (president of Kuhn Loeb & Co.) Henry Davidson (senior partner in the J. P. Morgan Bank), Charles Norton (president of Morgan's First National Bank), Paul Warburg and Benjamin Strong (president of Morgan's Bankers Trust Co.)

The introduction in 1913 of the "Federal Reserve System" enabled the international bankers to consolidate their financial powers in the U.S. Paul Warburg was the first chairman of the "Federal Reserve Bank of New York".

The "Federal Reserve Act" was soon followed by the 16th Amendment to the Constitution which enabled Congress to levy taxes on the personal income of U.S. citizens. This was the consequence of the fact that the U.S. government could no longer print its own money to finance its operations.

For the first time since the founding of the U.S. income tax was levied.

mj12
29-03-2008, 03:03 PM
The foremost shareholders of the FEDERAL RESERVE (The Fed) were:

1. Rothschild banks in London and Paris

2. Lazard Brothers Bank in Paris

3. Israel Moses Seif Bank in Italy

4. Warburg Bank in Hamburg and Amsterdam

5. Lehmann Bank in New York

6. Kuhn Loeb Bank in New York

7. Rockefeller's Chase Manhattan Bank in New York.

8. Goldman Sachs Bank in New York

Congressman CHARLES LINDBERGH already then described the new Federal reserve System as the invisible government by its financial power.

How does "the Fed" function?

The Fed's "Open Market Committee" produces Federal Reserve Notes (dollar notes). These notes are then loaned to the U.S. government against obligations that serve the Fed as security. These obligations are held by the twelve Fed banks which receive the yearly interest payments thereon.



Remarks to Today's Situation

In 1982 the U.S. tax office put the national debt at US$ 1,070,241,000,000. The Fed therefore received in only one year US$ 115,800,000,000 in interest payments from the American tax payers. This interest capital goes into the coffers of the Fed, and so to the international private bankers.

1992 the obligations held by the Fed reached US$ 5,000,000,000,000 and the interest payments by the tax payers rise continually. And this fortune was created by the Fed by lending money to the U.S. government and charging high interest rates for something that costs the Fed only paper, ink and printing costs. This is one of the biggest swindles in the history of the U.S. and almost nobody notices. And so the Fed holds - via the obligations of the U.S. government - the lien on the state and private property of the whole of the United States of America.

Innumerable lawsuits have not been successful in reversing the Federal Reserve Act. There is no legal way for the citizens to reclaim the money because the Fed is not a part of the government but a private institution. Apparently the Fed is not constitutional and should therefore not even exist. Nine U.S. states have cases pending to abolish (avskaffe) the Fed.

mj12
29-03-2008, 03:34 PM
RUSSIAN'S 'ROSWELL 1969

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the Jaw dropping video below is from a UFO crash site allegedly filmed by the Russian KGB during March of 1969 in the Sverdlovsk region of Russia.The footage was later obtained from the Russian Black Market by filmmakers who then published the documentary, "The Secret KGB UFO Files". Did an extraterrestrial spacecraft crash land in this remote region of Russian farmland?The documentary featured an extensive summary of the footage, the canisters containing the footage, and expert analysis from the likes of Stanton Friedman. One film expert noted in the documentary that the footage came in an old Soviet canister that had information labeled on it that was consistent with info written directly on the film reel. The numbers on the film's header matched the canisters they came. The header of the film had the crest of the KGB on it and the term for TOP SECRET as shown in the first few seconds of this footage and image to the right. Having real looking alien footage is one thing, but including the original film reel & canisters means you are extremely close to proving 100% authenticity

mj12
29-03-2008, 03:45 PM
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mj12
29-03-2008, 03:52 PM
NASA Haunebu?

http://discaircraft.greyfalcon.us/picturese/nasa1.jpg

This is an official NASA photo of what is claimed to be a pressure tank lid. But it is highly suspicious. What were they testing? Mercury-ion propulsion.



Notice radiation gear and gas masks. Object doesn't look like a mere pressure tank lid but experimental Haunebu-like craft that appears to be LEVITATING off floor as vapor escapes.



These photos were even displayed by NASA with UFO? caption... then went on to explain it was a joke, that this is a pressure lid for a mercury-ion test tank.



So where is the lifting mechanism? What is with the strange metal bolted ring around it as well:

http://discaircraft.greyfalcon.us/picturese/nasa2.jpg

Microwave
29-03-2008, 03:58 PM
Kerajaan Malaysia ade x menda ni ek.. :-? :D

mj12
29-03-2008, 04:05 PM
Kerajaan Malaysia ade x menda ni ek.. :-? :D

:D ...ntah lah..tapi itu hari kononnya hantar angkasawan..last2 kuar kat nasa webpage 'spaceflight participant"..!!:D

http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/183311main_jsc2007e038131_small.jpg

The Expedition 16 crew members pose for a portrait at the Johnson Space Center. From the left (front row) are Russia's Federal Space Agency cosmonaut Yuri Malenchenko, flight engineer and Soyuz commander; astronaut Peggy Whitson, commander; and Malaysian spaceflight participant Sheikh Muszaphar Shukor. From the left (back row) are European Space Agency (ESA) astronaut Léopold Eyharts, astronaut Garrett Reisman and astronaut Dan Tani, all flight engineers.

Microwave
29-03-2008, 04:07 PM
:D kerajaan malaysia naikkan harga sbb nak isi perot sendiri je.. :)) bukan nk buat penyelidikan.. hantor angkasawan suruh p makan angin. :)) sohai..

p.s: sori tuan tanah.. termasuk topic politik pulak.. :D

Microwave
29-03-2008, 04:08 PM
:D ...ntah lah..tapi itu hari kononnya hantar angkasawan..last2 kuar kat nasa webpage 'spaceflight participant"..!!:D

http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/183311main_jsc2007e038131_small.jpg

The Expedition 16 crew members pose for a portrait at the Johnson Space Center. From the left (front row) are Russia's Federal Space Agency cosmonaut Yuri Malenchenko, flight engineer and Soyuz commander; astronaut Peggy Whitson, commander; and Malaysian spaceflight participant Sheikh Muszaphar Shukor. From the left (back row) are European Space Agency (ESA) astronaut Léopold Eyharts, astronaut Garrett Reisman and astronaut Dan Tani, all flight engineers.

tanya dia sket. ape yg dia sumbangkan pada pada malaysia dlm bidang ni.. :)) buat gelak je boleh la... :(scam

mj12
29-03-2008, 04:12 PM
:D kerajaan malaysia naikkan harga sbb nak isi perot sendiri je.. :)) bukan nk buat penyelidikan.. hantor angkasawan suruh p makan angin. :)) sohai..

p.s: sori tuan tanah.. termasuk topic politik pulak.. :D

:)) tu la pasal..membazir je...dengar belanja utk dia je dekat RM100 juta...mmg kalau kat Russia kalau ada duit sebanyak tu leh gi ISS...ada dulu tertengok berita 1 org jutawan US bayar byk tu just nak gi ISS....buat malu dunia je Malaysia nie:D

Microwave
29-03-2008, 04:17 PM
:)) tu la pasal..membazir je...dengar belanja utk dia je dekat RM100 juta...mmg kalau kat Russia kalau ada duit sebanyak tu leh gi ISS...ada dulu tertengok berita 1 org jutawan US bayar byk tu just nak gi ISS....buat malu dunia je Malaysia nie:D
Kerajaan saje nak buang duit kononya kita boleh ke angkasa. kalau boleh ke angkasa pakai teknologi kita dn kita buat sendiri la.. ini rakyat tengah kebuluran pon xnak dia tolong. p hantar angkasawan nak kaborkan mata rakyat. MMG TOTALLY :(scam

mj12
29-03-2008, 04:20 PM
Kerajaan Malaysia ade x menda ni ek.. :-? :D

bro..(off topic jap)..mana yg lain2 ar wheriz..wealtgainer..etc..kekadang saya fikir kasar sangat ke bahasa saya pakai??!!...menyesal pun ada...abih nak buat macam ner....dah pakai contoh paling mudah pun x faham lagi...anyway kalau bro ada termasuk thread ada terserempak ke dgn dia org kata saya minta maaf je lah ye..:(

syaq
29-03-2008, 04:20 PM
biasa la amerika....hehehe...

mj12
29-03-2008, 04:24 PM
biasa la amerika....hehehe...

:) support sudan lah lak...releks je negara nie..:D :D :D

mj12
29-03-2008, 04:30 PM
Roswell crash UFO

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On or about July 4, 1947, metallic debris was discovered scattered around the Brazel cattle ranch near Roswell, New Mexico. Was this merely the remains of a weather balloon, as the U.S. Air Force initially insisted? Or was this material part of an alien "flying disc," as members of the growing UFO community would later claim?

In the decades the followed the infamous "Roswell Incident," several "eye-witnesses" stepped forward to insist that the Army had, in fact, recovered a crashed alien spacecraft outside of Roswell. Although some claimed the craft was a simple convex disc, others described a more complex vehicle with an organic, somewhat stingray-like appearance.

Purportedly, the recovered UFO was first taken to the mysterious Hanger 18 at Wright-Pattern Air Force Base in Dayton, Ohio, then later shipped to the government's Top Secret Area 51 testing facility near Groom Lake, Nevada. There it was "reverse-engineered" so that America's military could master the science behind the alien's superior technology, leading to the craft affectionately dubbed the "Sports Model."

"mungkin dari event ini US start design B-2..F-117..Aurorra...etc.."reverse-engineered"

Microwave
29-03-2008, 04:39 PM
bro..(off topic jap)..mana yg lain2 ar wheriz..wealtgainer..etc..kekadang saya fikir kasar sangat ke bahasa saya pakai??!!...menyesal pun ada...abih nak buat macam ner....dah pakai contoh paling mudah pun x faham lagi...anyway kalau bro ada termasuk thread ada terserempak ke dgn dia org kata saya minta maaf je lah ye..:(
diorang ade kat thread lain tu.. PM je la diorang klik kat nama dia then hantar PM kat depa. :) depa oraite la tu.. dah tua bangka xkan nak wat perangai mcm budak kecik kot. :))

mj12
29-03-2008, 04:52 PM
how's russian roswell occured....

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mj12
29-03-2008, 04:57 PM
A Copy Of Admiral Richard B. BYRD flight-journal over the North Pole

foreword by: Dr. William Bernard Ph.d., D.D.

The reader of the following documentation should find a striking example of dire devotion. Especially when one considers that this log diary was written in the year 1947 in the months of February and March, under circumstances that evidently defied the imagination and credibility, for those times as any others. Here is dealt with the evident answers the origin of the so called UFOs,as well as the Hollow Earth, or as the admiral described. ( The Land Beyond The Poles ) The reader will relive that period as he reads this document. To say it is fascinating is to place it mildly, but to read it now for yourself, I know that you will conclude, in the Admirals own words " Just as the long night of the Arctic ends, the brilliant sunshine of truth shall come forth again, and those who are of Darkness shall fall in its Light". DR. D.B.

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"The exploration flight over the North Pole"
( The Inner Earth My Secret Diary - Diary Feb. Mar. 1947 )

I must write this diary in secrecy and obscurity. It concerns my Arctic flight of the nineteenth day of February in the year of Nineteen and Forty Seven. There comes a time when the rationality of men must fade into insignificance and one must accept the inevitability of the Truth! I am not at liberty to disclose the following documentation at this writing ...perhaps it shall never see the light of public scrutiny, but I must do my duty and record here for all to read one day. In a world of greed and exploitation of certain of mankind can no longer suppress that which is truth.



FLIGHT LOG: BASE CAMP ARCTIC, 2/19/1947

0600 Hours- All preparations are complete for our flight northward and we are airborne with full fuel tanks at 0610 Hours.

0620 Hours- fuel mixture on starboard engine seems too rich, adjustment made and Pratt Whittneys are running smoothly.

0730 Hours- Radio Check with base camp. All is well and radio reception is normal. 0740 Hours- Note slight oil leak in starboard engine, oil pressure indicator seems normal, however.

0800 Hours- Slight turbulence noted from easterly direction at altitude of 2321 feet, correction to 1700 feet, no further turbulence, but tail wind increases, slight adjustment in throttle controls, aircraft performing very well now.

0815 Hours- Radio Check with base camp, situation normal.

0830 Hours- Turbulence encountered again, increase altitude to 2900 feet, smooth flight conditions again.

0910 Hours- Vast Ice and snow below, note coloration of yellowish nature, and disperse in a linear pattern. Altering course foe a better examination of this color pattern below, note reddish or purple color also. Circle this area two full turns and return to assigned compass heading. Position check made again to base camp, and relay information concerning colorations in the Ice and snow below. 0910 Hours- Both Magnetic and Gyro compasses beginning to gyrate and wobble, we are unable to hold our heading by instrumentation. Take bearing with Sun compass, yet all seems well. The controls are seemingly slow to respond and have sluggish quality, but there is no indication of Icing!

0915 Hours- In the distance is what appears to be mountains.

0949 Hours- 29 minutes elapsed flight time from the first sighting of the mountains, it is no illusion. They are mountains and consisting of a small range that I have never seen before!

0955 Hours- Altitude change to 2950 feet, encountering strong turbulence again. 1000 Hours- We are crossing over the small mountain range and still proceeding northward as best as can be ascertained. Beyond the mountain range is what appears to be a valley with a small river or stream running through the center portion. There should be no green valley below! Something is definitely wrong and abnormal here! We should be over Ice and Snow! To the portside are great forests growing on the mountain slopes. Our navigation Instruments are still spinning, the gyroscope is oscillating back and forth!

1005 Hours- I alter altitude to 1400 feet and execute a sharp left turn to better examine the valley below. It is green with either moss or a type of tight knit grass. The Light here seems different. I cannot see the Sun anymore. We make another left turn and we spot what seems to be a large animal of some kind below us. It appears to be an elephant! NO!!! It looks more like a mammoth! This is incredible! Yet, there it is! Decrease altitude to 1000 feet and take binoculars to better examine the animal. It is confirmed - it is definitely a mammoth-like animal! Report this to base camp.

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1030 Hours- Encountering more rolling green hills now. The external temperature indicator reads 74 degrees Fahrenheit! Continuing on our heading now. Navigation instruments seem normal now. I am puzzled over their actions. Attempt to contact base camp. Radio is not functioning!

1130 Hours- Countryside below is more level and normal (if I may use that word). Ahead we spot what seems to be a city!!!! This is impossible! Aircraft seems light and oddly buoyant. The controls refuse to respond!! My GOD!!! Off our port and starboard wings are a strange type of aircraft. They are closing rapidly alongside! They are disc-shaped and have a radiant quality to them. They are close enough now to see the markings on them. It is a type of Swastika!!! This is fantastic. Where are we! What has happened. I tug at the controls again. They will not respond!!!! We are caught in an invisible vice grip of some type!

mj12
29-03-2008, 04:58 PM
1135 Hours- Our radio crackles and a voice comes through in English with what perhaps is a slight Nordic or Germanic accent! The message is: 'Welcome, Admiral, to our domain. We shall land you in exactly seven minutes! Relax, Admiral, you are in good hands.' I note the engines of our plane have stopped running! The aircraft is under some strange control and is now turning itself. The controls are useless.

1140 Hours- Another radio message received. We begin the landing process now, and in moments the plane shudders slightly, and begins a descent as though caught in some great unseen elevator! The downward motion is negligible, and we touch down with only a slight jolt!

1145 Hours- I am making a hasty last entry in the flight log. Several men are approaching on foot toward our aircraft. They are tall with blond hair. In the distance is a large shimmering city pulsating with rainbow hues of color. I do not know what is going to happen now, but I see no signs of weapons on those approaching. I hear now a voice ordering me by name to open the cargo door. I comply. END

mj12
29-03-2008, 04:59 PM
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picture : we know that the earth has many dimension layers on different frequencies. And it seem to be possible to enter into these that are very near - and inside earth through doors on different places - also some near the poles. (ill. made of RØ)

From this point I write all the following events here from memory. It defies the imagination and would seem all but madness if it had not happened. The radioman and I are taken from the aircraft and we are received in a most cordial manner. We were then boarded on a small platform-like conveyance with no wheels! It moves us toward the glowing city with great swiftness. As we approach, the city seems to be made of a crystal material. Soon we arrive at a large building that is a type I have never seen before. It appears to be right out of the design board of Frank Lloyd Wright, or perhaps more correctly, out of a Buck Rogers setting!!

We are given some type of warm beverage which tasted like nothing I have ever savored before. It is delicious. After about ten minutes, two of our wondrous appearing hosts come to our quarters and announce that I am to accompany them. I have no choice but to comply. I leave my radioman behind and we walk a short distance and enter into what seems to be an elevator.

We descend downward for some moments, the machine stops, and the door lifts silently upward! We then proceed down a long hallway that is lit by a rose-colored light that seems to be emanating from the very walls themselves! One of the beings motions for us to stop before a great door. Over the door is an inscription that I cannot read. The great door slides noiselessly open and I am beckoned to enter. One of my hosts speaks. 'Have no fear, Admiral, you are to have an audience with the Master...' I step inside and my eyes adjust to the beautiful coloration that seems to be filling the room completely. Then I begin to see my surroundings.

What greeted my eyes is the most beautiful sight of my entire existence. It is in fact too beautiful and wondrous to describe. It is exquisite and delicate. I do not think there exists a human term that can describe it in any detail with justice! My thoughts are interrupted in a cordial manner by a warm rich voice of melodious quality, 'I bid you welcome to our domain, Admiral.' I see a man with delicate features and with the etching of years upon his face. He is seated at a long table. He motions me to sit down in one of the chairs. After I am seated, he places his fingertips together and smiles.

He speaks softly again, and conveys the following. 'We have let you enter here because you are of noble character and well-known on the Surface World, Admiral.' Surface World, I half-gasp under my breath! 'Yes," the Master replies with a smile, 'you are in the domain of the Arianni, the Inner World of the Earth. We shall not long delay your mission, and you will be safely escorted back to the surface and for a distance beyond. But now, Admiral, I shall tell you why you have been summoned here. Our interest rightly begins just after your race exploded the first atomic bombs over Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Japan. It was at that alarming time we sent our flying machines, the "Flugelrads", to your surface world to investigate what your race had done.

That is, of course, past history now, my dear Admiral, but I must continue on. You see, we have never interfered before in your race's wars, and barbarity, but now we must, for you have learned to tamper with a certain power that is not for man, namely, that of atomic energy. Our emissaries have already delivered messages to the powers of your world, and yet they do not heed. Now you have been chosen to be witness here that our world does exist. You see, our Culture and Science is many thousands of years beyond your race, Admiral.' I interrupted, 'But what does this have to do with me, Sir?' The Master's eyes seemed to penetrate deeply into my mind, and after studying me for a few moments he replied, 'Your race has now reached the point of no return, for there are those among you who would destroy your very world rather than relinquish their power as they know it...

' I nodded, and the Master continued, 'In 1945 and afterward, we tried to contact your race, but our efforts were met with hostility, our Flugelrads were fired upon. Yes, even pursued with malice and animosity by your fighterplanes. So, now, I say to you, my son, there is a great storm gathering in your world, a black fury that will not spend itself for many years. There will be no answer in your arms, there will be no safety in your science. It may rage on until every flower of your culture is trampled, and all human things are leveled in vast chaos. Your recent war was only a prelude of what is yet to come for your race. We here see it more clearly with each hour..do you say I am mistaken?'

'No,' I answer, 'it happened once before, the dark ages came and they lasted for more than five hundred years.' 'Yes, my son,' replied the Master, 'the dark ages that will come now for your race will cover the Earth like a pall, but I believe that some of your race will live through the storm, beyond that, I cannot say. We see at a great distance a new world stirring from the ruins of your race, seeking its lost and legendary treasures, and they will be here, my son, safe in our keeping. When that time arrives, we shall come forward again to help revive your culture and your race. Perhaps, by then, you will have learned the futility of war and its strife...and after that time, certain of your culture and science will be returned for your race to begin anew.

You, my son, are to return to the Surface World with this message.....' With these closing words, our meeting seemed at an end. I stood for a moment as in a dream....but, yet, I knew this was reality, and for some strange reason I bowed slightly, either out of respect or humility, I do not know which. Suddenly, I was again aware that the two beautiful hosts who had brought me here were again at my side. 'This way, Admiral,' motioned one. I turned once more before leaving and looked back toward the Master. A gentle smile was etched on his delicate and ancient face. 'Farewell, my son,' he spoke, then he gestured with a lovely, slender hand a motion of peace and our meeting was truly ended.

Quickly, we walked back through the great door of the Master's chamber and once again entered into the elevator. The door slid silently downward and we were at once going upward. One of my hosts spoke again, 'We must now make haste, Admiral, as the Master desires to delay you no longer on your scheduled timetable and you must return with his message to your race.' I said nothing. All of this was almost beyond belief, and once again my thoughts were interrupted as we stopped. I entered the room and was again with my radioman. He had an anxious expression on his face. As I approached, I said, 'It is all right, Howie, it is all right.'

The two beings motioned us toward the awaiting conveyance, we boarded, and soon arrived back at the aircraft. The engines were idling and we boarded immediately. The whole atmosphere seemed charged now with a certain air of urgency. After the cargo door was closed the aircraft was immediately lifted by that unseen force until we reached an altitude of 2700 feet. Two of the aircraft were alongside for some distance guiding us on our return way. I must state here, the airspeed indicator registered no reading, yet we were moving along at a very rapid rate.

215 Hours- A radio message comes through. 'We are leaving you now, Admiral, your controls are free. Auf Wiedersehen!!!!' We watched for a moment as the flugelrads disappeared into the pale blue sky. The aircraft suddenly felt as though caught in a sharp downdraft for a moment. We quickly recovered her control. We do not speak for some time, each man has his thoughts....

ENTRY IN FLIGHT LOG CONTINUES: 220 Hours- We are again over vast areas of ice and snow, and approximately 27 minutes from base camp. We radio them, they respond. We report all conditions normal....normal. Base camp expresses relief at our re-established contact.

300 Hours- We land smoothly at base camp. I have a mission.....

END LOG ENTRIES.

March 11, 1947. I have just attended a staff meeting at the Pentagon. I have stated fully my discovery and the message from the Master. All is duly recorded. The President has been advised. I am now detained for several hours (six hours, thirty-nine minutes, to be exact.) I am interviewed intently by Top Security Forces and a medical team. It was an ordeal!!!!

I am placed under strict control via the national security provisions of this United States of America. I am ORDERED TO REMAIN SILENT IN REGARD TO ALL THAT I HAVE LEARNED, ON THE BEHALF OF HUMANITY!!!

Incredible! I am reminded that I am a military man and I must obey orders.



30/12/56: FINAL ENTRY: These last few years elapsed since 1947 have not been kind...I now make my final entry in this singular diary. In closing, I must state that I have faithfully kept this matter secret as directed all these years. It has been completely against my values of moral right. Now, I seem to sense the long night coming on and this secret will not die with me, but as all truth shall, it will triumph and so it shall. This can be the only hope for mankind. I have seen the truth and it has quickened my spirit and has set me free! I have done my duty toward the monstrous military industrial complex.

Now, the long night begins to approach, but there shall be no end. Just as the long night of the Arctic ends, the brilliant sunshine of Truth shall come again....and those who are of darkness shall fall in it's Light..FOR I HAVE SEEN THAT LAND BEYOND THE POLE, THAT CENTER OF THE GREAT UNKNOWN.

Admiral Richard E. Byrd

United States Navy, 24 December 1956

Overclock
29-03-2008, 04:59 PM
Aku rase thread nih elok tukar tajuk.. Pikir sikit yang elok2 nyer tajuk..Ade lak pegi bintang.. bulan pun tak lepas lagi..

mj12
29-03-2008, 05:03 PM
Aku rase thread nih elok tukar tajuk.. Pikir sikit yang elok2 nyer tajuk..Ade lak pegi bintang.. bulan pun tak lepas lagi..

..dah dapat ke bulan dah 2 negeri lagi...nie nak tunggu 1 lg negeri kat pantai timur....kempunan lah bro...uncle patrick bro x dapat projek...:eek: :eek: :eek: :)) :)) :)) :))

mj12
29-03-2008, 05:06 PM
Roswell 1947 Alien Footage!

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mj12
29-03-2008, 06:09 PM
Interstellar Travel

"Assuming they're in Space, they will focus the three Gravity Generators on the point they want to go to. Now, to give an analogy: If you take a thin rubber sheet, say, lay it on a table and put thumbtacks in each corner, then take a big stone and set it on one end and say that's your spacecraft, you pick out a point that you want to go ~ which could be anywhere on the rubber sheet ~ pinch that point with your fingers and pull it all the way up to the craft. That's how it focuses and pulls that point to it. When you shut off the Gravity Generators, the stone (or Spacecraft) follows that stretched rubber back to its point. There's no linear travel through Space; it actually bends Space and Time and follows Space as it retracts."

mj12
29-03-2008, 06:27 PM
my future vehicle...

http://www.gravitywarpdrive.com/Bob_Lazar_S4_Disc_Images/S4_Disc.gif

jasonbournekillspy
29-03-2008, 06:37 PM
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demo konsep ufo nye teknologi...heheh

Microwave
29-03-2008, 08:26 PM
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demo konsep ufo nye teknologi...heheh

fuhh. caya la bro.. siap ade buat demo lagi tu.. ni baru true evident. tapi dia pakai konsep electromagnetic ni..

mansurgilerduit
29-03-2008, 08:29 PM
herannya pasal UFO ni la kan, selalu muncul kat negara maju. nape kt negara lain, jarang sgt footage dia. Malaysia pun xde lagi, yg ada cuma beberapa kes itu pun secara lisan shj.

so, aku suspect UFO ni adalah kepunyaan beberapa negara2 kuasa besar. maybe secret weapon derang. kalo hebat pun, nape masa perang iraq tak hantar je UFO diorang tu?

kebanyakan footage skrg ni pun byk hoax. sama ada video editing atau diorang pakai remote control toys spt ni:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=x-ufo&search_type=

Microwave
29-03-2008, 08:32 PM
herannya pasal UFO ni la kan, selalu muncul kat negara maju. nape kt negara lain, jarang sgt footage dia. Malaysia pun xde lagi, yg ada cuma beberapa kes itu pun secara lisan shj.

so, aku suspect UFO ni adalah kepunyaan beberapa negara2 kuasa besar. maybe secret weapon derang. kalo hebat pun, nape masa perang iraq tak hantar je UFO diorang tu?

kebanyakan footage skrg ni pun byk hoax. sama ada video editing atau diorang pakai remote control toys spt ni:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=x-ufo&search_type=
sori bro.. malaysia mane la mampu nk beli kamera.. satu lagi.. mmg ade dah kat malaysia ni.. cuma org ingatkan hantu. sebab ideologi kat sini mempercayai akan kewujudan hantu itu lagi tinggi mempercayai kewujudan UFO.

-saya setuju dgn bro.. diorang guna teknologi makluk luar ni utk kepentingan dan kemajuan persenjataan diorang

steveorlando79
29-03-2008, 08:33 PM
UFO ni tak lalu kat mesia pasal depa takut kena tembak ngan meriam buluh

jasonbournekillspy
29-03-2008, 09:18 PM
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lagi konsep elektromagnet :D

jasonbournekillspy
29-03-2008, 09:26 PM
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ni lak konsep magnetic mainan bernama levitron ...pendapat aku kalo kite leh manipulate kuase magnetic nih memang x mustahil sume ufo tu leh jadik...ape kate kite wat sendiri lak?

mj12
29-03-2008, 09:53 PM
-ralat-ralat-ralat-(tgk Post Kat Bawah)

mj12
29-03-2008, 10:00 PM
herannya pasal UFO ni la kan, selalu muncul kat negara maju. nape kt negara lain, jarang sgt footage dia. Malaysia pun xde lagi, yg ada cuma beberapa kes itu pun secara lisan shj.


ada bro...tp kat Malaysia banyak for ur eyes only..jarang yang captured pakai camera....:)


Huge UFOs Sighted in Malaysia (1995)


KUALA LUMPUR, Oct 18, 1995 (Reuter) - Crowds of people have been gathering at a village in Malaysia's central Selangor state after news spread of sightings of an unidentified flying object (UFO) occupied by extraterrestials with long ears and little red eyes.

The New Straits Times newspaper reported on Wednesday that the UFO was said to have been sighted at least four times since September above forests at the Tanjung Sepat Laut village, south of the capital city Kuala Lumpur.

Malaysians who claimed to have seen the spaceship said it was as big as a football field and several stories high. They said it was encircled by flashing red, orange and green lights.

No one has managed to take a photograph of the spaceship or the 60 centimetre (about two feet) tall aliens, the newspaper report said.

One villager, among the hundreds who turned up on Tuesday in the hope of catching the spaceship, said he first thought the object was a low-flying airplane.

"However, the same object returned a few days later, whizzed past the village and stopped about a kilometre (half a mile) away where it hovered about 100 metres in the air before
disappearing again," he said.

The Malaysian Air Force has dismissed the alleged sightings.

"We have seen nothing on our air defence screens to indicate a UFO had violated Malaysian airspace," the New Straits Times quoted air force's deputy chief Major General Ahmad Saruji Che Rus as saying.

Director-General of Malaysia's Space Science Studies Division, Mazlan Othman, said the sightings may have been hallucinations.

"Sights of faraway planets or stars glowing in the dark could be misconstrued as UFOs," the New Straits Times quoted her as saying.

Humanoid Encounters in Malaysia

UFO occupants or "humanoids" present themselves in various shapes and sizes, as do the UFO themselves. Worldwide reports have from time to time given rise to new types or species of humanoids, from small winged creatures to huge hairy creatures. But from reports as early as 1897 it has become clear that one type – the 4 feet-5 inches Oriental type – has been consistent. They were seen widely in France during the great 1954 UFO wave and continued to be sighted as recently as 1979 in South Africa.

While other countries have been experiencing close encounters with humanoids of diversified forms, I would like to draw attention to the reports in Malaysia where humanoid encounters have been confined to only one type – tiny entities measuring from 3 inches to 6 inches in height. Though reports of the other UFO categories bear similarity to the global sightings, encounters with humanoids in Malaysia on the record so far are in a class of their own. There has not been a single reported incident of encounters with UFO occupants measuring taller than 6 inches in height. It is also to be noted that there has not been a single case of a UFO measuring greater than 3 feet in diameter landing on Malaysian soil. These observations constitute a puzzle, and if any explanations can be given it is hoped that some relationship with the global UFO landings may give a clue to the UFO phenomena.

The following alleged encounters, the full stories of which are incomplete since the principle witnesses cannot be located are listed below.

CASE 1. Johore Bahru, 1970

Four boys going to school one morning saw a small UFO and tiny 6-inch tall creatures. The boys soon reported it to the headmaster and since it occurred in the school premises, the news broke out and soon the whole school were combing the area looking for the creatures. One small burnt patch on the ground was found. The UFO was gone.

CASE 2: Gambang near Kuantan, 1973

Two schoolboys claimed to have seen tiny humanoids only 3-inches tall in the school compound. It is said that one of the creatures was actually caught by the boys, which attracted the attention of a teacher. He arrived in time to see it before the tiny creature finally managed to escape.

CASE 3: Bukit Mertajam, 1973

A group of boys playing football in a school field sighted a small UFO landed nearby. From it emerged tiny creatures which immediately one of the boys tried to catch. A beam of light was fired at the boy’s hand. The UFO flew away.

CASE 4: Ipoh, 1973

A small UFO carrying tiny humanoids landed in a school field. Several schoolboys who sighted it excitedly called their teachers. They came just too late to see the object speeding away.

CASE 5: Miri, Sarawak, 1973

Several boys saw a humanoid about 6 inches tall wearing a white suit cutting a fence wire with an intense beam of light. They tried to catch it but it was lost in the bushes. No UFO was sighted.

CASE 6: Miri, Sarawak, 1973

Several people on vacation along the beach sighted a group of tiny beings wearing white suits. There were about six or seven of them. They wore no mask and resembled humans except for their tiny size. This group consisted of possibly males and females. The females were notable because of the long hair. An attempt to catch them failed. No saucer was sighted.

CASE 7: Bukit Mertajam, 1979

A small UFO landed on a field near some boys. A boy tried to catch a 3-inch creature that emerged from it. It fired a beam that temporarily paralyzed his right arm. The UFO then flew away.


There were not less than 7 reported landings in Malaysia from the first known landing in 1970 through May 1979. From these reports there were 5 cases of close encounter with tiny humanoids and 2 other cases and 2 other cases reported from East Malaysia but no UFO was sighted. The creatures measured, in all cases, either 3 inches or 6 inches tall. All were equipped with a type of ray gun. They were described as well dressed in one-piece suits. Some had slightly larger head and round eyes. The 3-inch humanoids sometimes had two antenna-like structures protruding from the head. Case 1,2,3,4 and 7 occurred in West Malaysia, all reported by schoolchildren and all landings took place in school premises.

There were 3 more probable encounters with tiny humanoids in Malaysia, but unfortunately the origin of the incidents cannot be traced. One recent case, a probable landing, occurred on May 26, 1979, near Kulim where the witnesses, 3 boys and 2 adults, claimed to have sighted a small UFO hovering a few feet above the ground perhaps in an attempt to land since its three landing gears were already down. As the witnesses tried to touch the object an intense light ray shone into their eyes which temporarily blinded them. This shows that the small UFO was intelligently controlled from inside. Considering its small size, estimated about 2 feet in diameter, the UFO occupants if any inside would have to measure about 3 inches tall to fit comfortably in the object.

Of the 9 reported landings or encounters with humanoids, 7 cases occurred in broad daylight. Only 2 landings were known to have taken place at night. There have been no reports of encounters with UFO occupants after dawn. Almost all of the UFOs sighted close range on the ground or hovering close to the ground measured on the average less than 3 feet in diameter.

UFOs that were sighted in the air were usually of large size. There have been reports of a disc-shaped UFO was big as a house flying over the hilly country in East Malaysia and a long elliptical object like a neon light was also sighted high in the sky.

UFO sightings near or within school compounds have been a worldwide occurrence. It is not surprising, therefore, that most of the Malaysian landings occurred in or near the school area. UFOs, as suspected by some researchers, have shown considerable interest in schools by the frequent sightings recorded. In Malaysia the case may not be so considering the nature of the land. From the air, Malaysia offers half a dozen types of landing grounds, namely jungles, rubber and oil palm plantations, rice fields, tin mining areas, and football fields. For a landing the thick jungles and rubber plantations do not offer enough clearance. Rice fields and tin-mining areas are almost isolated, and if there were any landings, most would go unnoticed (considering also the small size of the UFO). The only landing spot that would attract attention in the event of a landing would be a field.

Why do Malaysian encounters (the UFO and the humanoids) come only in tiny sizes when compared to other parts of the world? Why do most landings occur in the daytime when all other worldwide landing reports usually happen at night? If deception is part of the UFO phenomenon then their tiny size may allow them to easily escape unnoticed. Since there have been no reports of encounters with bigger or human-size humanoids in the dark hours, then we again ask, why do most landings have to be conducted in the day time?

It has been observed that UFOs were mainly attracted to the fracture-zone areas of high seismic activity. In fact it can be seen that earthquake-free areas or countries have fewer UFO reports compared to the bulk of the UFO sightings reported originating from earthquake zones or areas that have records of or have "felt" even the slightest earth tremors.

Malaysia is an earthquake-free country. The areas of gravity and magnetic anomalies which UFOs may use to operate so excellently is lacking in this region. Is the tiny size a compensation for the maneuverability to land and take off on a magnetically stable area?
(...mugkin sebab UFO jarang ada kat belah sini..)

mansurgilerduit
29-03-2008, 10:03 PM
tu la maksud aku, kat malaysia xde bukti bgambar/video. last aku dgr pun kes kat kampung aku di tanjung sepat. berkerumun org pergi sana sampai apek jual air dgn ais krim jadi kaya raya.

http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc1113.htm

lagi satu tak salah aku kat tv ari tu ada interbiu sorg mamat ni yg kaji UFO kat negara kita. dia kata UFO ni akan muncul bila ada je bencana alam, eg: gunung berapi, gempa bumi, etc.

video demo yg korang tunjuk diorang panggil ion wind. guna cas elektrik tinggi utk ionize udara sekitar lifter tu. maksudnya, benda tiga segi tu terapung bila wujud udara. kat vakum tak jalan.

tapi aku ada tgk video derang buat experiment kat NASA lab, lifter tu terapung meskipun kat full vacuum environment.

yg terapung guna magnet maybe payah kalau bersandarkan medan magnetik bumi sbb bumi punyer bersepah dan adakalanya bertukar medan. so, maybe solution yg selamat kena buat anti-graviti la kot ek? hehehe

mj12
29-03-2008, 10:04 PM
UFO ni tak lalu kat mesia pasal depa takut kena tembak ngan meriam buluh

mana leh dia suka2 lalu kat ruang udara Malaysia...dia kena tabik hormat dulu kat "Kerajaan Langit Ayah Pin"...ayah pin lak sekarang x tatau kat ner...so nak tabik kat sapa??...:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

mj12
29-03-2008, 10:11 PM
tu la maksud aku, kat malaysia xde bukti bgambar/video. last aku dgr pun kes kat kampung aku di tanjung sepat. berkerumun org pergi sana sampai apek jual air dgn ais krim jadi kaya raya.

http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc1113.htm
lagi satu tak salah aku kat tv ari tu ada interbiu sorg mamat ni yg kaji UFO kat negara kita. dia kata UFO ni akan muncul bila ada je bencana alam, eg: gunung berapi, gempa bumi, etc.

video demo yg korang tunjuk diorang panggil ion wind. guna cas elektrik tinggi utk ionize udara sekitar lifter tu. maksudnya, benda tiga segi tu terapung bila wujud udara. kat vakum tak jalan.


tapi aku ada tgk video derang buat experiment kat NASA lab, lifter tu terapung meskipun kat full vacuum environment.

yg terapung guna magnet maybe payah kalau bersandarkan medan magnetik bumi sbb bumi punyer bersepah dan adakalanya bertukar medan. so, maybe solution yg selamat kena buat anti-graviti la kot ek? hehehe

"Malaysia is an earthquake-free country. The areas of gravity and magnetic anomalies which UFOs may use to operate so excellently is lacking in this region. Is the tiny size a compensation for the maneuverability to land and take off on a magnetically stable area?"..nie pun ada saya terbaca pasal Geologist kata pasal muka bumi Malaysia...kalau saya ada terjumpa balik saya paste kat sini...elok pun banyak x lalu kat Malaysia buat menyemak je kat ruang udara Malaysia..:D

mj12
29-03-2008, 10:18 PM
lagi pasal gambar Mars..

Forest
http://mars.galactic.to/M39.jpg

Alien life form
http://mars.galactic.to/M40.jpg

Alien life forms
http://mars.galactic.to/M42.jpg

Water pipeline
http://mars.galactic.to/M38.jpg

Underground base
http://mars.galactic.to/M37.jpg

Water reservoir
http://mars.galactic.to/M41.jpg

mj12
29-03-2008, 10:21 PM
MARS ROVER STATUE OR PERSON?

GAMBAR NIE LEAK KAT INTERNET....PENING NASA NAK JAWAP PASAL GAMBAR NIE...:D

http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evidence-reports/2008/134/1-134-statue-wide-1x.jpg

mj12
29-03-2008, 10:27 PM
NIE DETAILS HURAIAN PASAL PIC NIE...

The above first image is an evidence site that was brought to my attention by viewer Marcela Bravo on 1/10/2008. In the above wider area view at the official image resolution, we see a small figure pointed out with the red arrow that strongly suggests a person in a sitting or kneeling position on Mars.

This scene was captured by the Spirit Rover panoramic camera on Sol 1367 in the first four listed black and white raw science data images with the evidence in question in the bottom area of each image. This scene was then later incorporated as a part of a artificially colorized very wide view West Valley Panorama NASA Photojournal PIA10216 presentation image. It was apparently in the latter image that Marcela Bravo discovered this evidence on the left side or end of that wide panorama image and then brought that to my attention. As it turns out, this may be a solid and remarkable discovery.

In the above first image wider field of view, note the long thin horizontal line the right portion of which is pointed out by the green arrows. This demonstrates that this scene has been extracted from the PIA10216 panorama images that is a mosaic of earlier smaller science data images rather than the originating Sol 1367 raw data images. The reason that I've done this is to demonstrate that there is other important evidence at this site nearby to and germane to the presence of the upright figure evidence.

One set of associative evidence would be what appears to possibly be faintly seen graffiti letters and/or numbers on the ground pointed out by the blue arrows. Of particular note is the number "5" that the right blue arrow is pointing to. When considered alone, this evidence might be dismissed as chance configurations of light and darker tones on the ground but when considered as part of the larger site evidence, the chance factor tends to diminish and the evidence tends to become more significant and telling.

Yet more associative evidence is what appears to be a purposefully placed rock strewn path leading up to the figure object as pointed out and bracketed by the black arrows. This path is a little too directionally straight along its parallel sides and very uniform in its width leading right up to the figure object with the figure too dead centered to be a chance configuration and particularly when the figure evidence is taken into consideration.

The human tendency is to focus only on the more dramatic figure evidence but that would be wrong because it allows more closed minds to dismiss the figure evidence itself as an aberrant chance configuration of geological forms. However, the figure exists in a context of other supportive evidence, none of which should not be ignored, and it is the whole context of evidence that is important and telling.

http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evidence-reports/2008/134/2-134-statue-path-1.5x.jpg

The above second image provides an increased 150% zoom factor on the field of evidence. Unfortunately, the figure evidence is darker while the other associative evidence is much lighter. So, in order to maintain the definition on the important figure evidence, the other context evidence tends to be washed out with too light color lessening its detail. However, you can still make out the number "5" and the path reasonably clear enough.

In this view, unimpeded by any labeling that I might add into the scene, I want you to pay particular attention to the rock strewn path evidence. Note how it from left to right crosses relatively level ground with more or less straight parallel sides but then drops down a short slope going between large rock surfaces to the side while still maintaining its straight parallel sides and then slopes back up to the figure. Note that the figure is on the very edge of a slightly elevated rock face.

Someone went to some trouble to scratch out this straight path to this spot and layer it with small rocks. This suggests that this place is important to someone and likely intended as a place of repeat visits. Further, the path and graffiti are the kind of evidence that would not likely last long in the elements before being covered over and yet is easily visible to us here. This brings up the question of whether this evidence is of recent origin or not?

http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evidence-reports/2008/134/3-134-statue-path-2x.jpg

The above third image provides a 200% zoom factor on the evidence just before too much deterioration of the image quality begins to be a factor. Again the need to maintain the detail on the darker figure comes at the expense of washing out the detail on the lighter color evidence. Even so, the number "5" is still fairly clear as is the rocky path. Here I've bracketed the path with some thin red lines to try and help define it and its elevations between the rocks better.

I believe that the up slope right at the base of the figure has been subjected to some smudge treatments obscuring detail there and that this has also visually effected the very bottom of the figure. On the other hand, the figure is still relatively clear. As you can see, the figure is anatomically correct for a squatting, kneeling, sitting human or humanoid figure. Note that one side (the left) is facing the camera and slightly turned away to its left away from the camera looking and gesturing with its left arm/hand crossing over its body to its left into the depression area just beyond it. A faint light reflection on the body just under the left arm but above the hip/leg area suggests a full breast or perhaps just a lumpy fold in the clothing.

The total evidence suggests that this figure is either a statue or a person but the visual evidence alone cannot tell us which that might be. The defined path suggests that this spot is repeatedly visited. That tends to lean in favor of this being a statue or figurine commemorating this place as important to someone. On the other hand, it could just mean that this spot is important and some may come here to commune and this may be a real person here doing that at the time the image was taken just as others may do from time to time.

On the other hand, if this is a biological figure, it is a very small one, smaller even than the small human midget sizes we are familiar with here on Earth. That tends to lean Earth human perception towards this being a statue or figurine representing a more "full size" humanoid life form similar to us. However, that is an Earth perception based on Earth experience and this is a different world with different evolutionary paths and factors. Many factors enter into what determines size of any organic life form and we want to be careful about trying to impose any Earth based experience or assumptions of on a different world and its life forms.

Also, the fact that this figure is generally the same color as the surroundings might tend to lean some in favor of perceiving this being a statue or figurine. If so, this is not a legitimate evidence factor. This image has been subjected to artificial color blanketing the entire image. This makes for a visually more comfortable appearing image with better albeit imperfect realism relative to black and white imaging. Color tends to bring out more detail and is good from that point of view. However, just remember that the figure is also covered by this "artificial" color meaning that the color on the figure cannot be trusted.

Neither the evidence nor I can guarantee that this is either a person or a statue/figurine on Mars as opposed to natural geology. Even so, all of the evidence and its associative features along with some common sense very strongly suggests that this represents intelligent life of some kind on Mars as opposed to geology. However, you must decide for yourself.

ADDENDUM...(added 1/27/2008)

Microwave
29-03-2008, 10:37 PM
Bro Mj ni keje ape ek..:-? byk info susah nak cari leh jumpa.. bukan calang² org bro ni. :D

mj12
30-03-2008, 12:06 AM
Bro Mj ni keje ape ek..:-? byk info susah nak cari leh jumpa.. bukan calang² org bro ni. :D

:) keje biasa je bro...dah minat bro..then banyak discuss gan kekawan yang suka bab nie....ada info yang saya baca ttg tajuk thread yang saya buka nie,akan saya lampirkan...mmg terkedu saya baca...dan x mustahil event ini berlaku!!..sekitar 35 tahun cahaya jauhnya:D ....saya manusia yang lemah je bro:"> ..still Hamba Allah...hanya Allah je Maha Besar..Maha Kaya....:D

Acul
30-03-2008, 12:17 AM
apa pulak tak betulnya, cuba nengok kat flag US byk tu bintang2 berkelip2:eek: :eek: :eek:

Betul jugak..tak terpikir lak aku:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

mj12
30-03-2008, 12:55 AM
UFO Greatest Story Ever Denied - NASA space secrets

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12 mile long perghh....cigar type UFO......

mj12
30-03-2008, 05:43 PM
CIGAR SHAPED SPACECRAFT (System B Propulsion)
----------------------------------------------

Large cigar shaped "mothership" craft use system B, which is essentially a
wave propulsion system. The system generates energyplane 2 (hereafter, EP2)
waves which are in counter or discounter phase to EP2 waves present in space.
The mothership operates according to the following general description:

At the front of the ship are some conic holes. These "holes" are transmitting
and receiving devices. The "holes" can be invisible seen from the outside of
the ship. The receiving holes are placed behind the transmitting holes. When
preparing for interstellar travel, the ship directs its front in the direction
of the target star. The swingproduct from this star at EP2 are received by the
receiving holes.

These holes are connected to an EP2 receiver. In the receiver the signals
are digitized. Then the signal is directed to a powerful computer.
This computer calculates the modulation frequency picture which will put the
ship in the right phase with respect to the EP2 waves from the star.
This electrical frequency picture is generated by a PLL generator array.
The frequency picture is split up into many channels. Each channel is
amplified to a amplitude of 1000000 Volt PEP. Each channel is connected to
specific electrodes inside a high-energy modulator tube. Through this tube
runs an orgon force or other suitable force. Inside the tube a
frequency picture similar to that generated by the star, but in another
phase, is generated. This picture is modulated into the high energy stream
running trough the tube. The modulated EP2 stream is mixed with an
isotropically generated EP2 field which surrounds the entire ship. When
these 2 frequencies are mixed you get a frequency which is the sum of the
two original frequencies. This frequency sum creates an attractive force
between the ship and the star on energyplane one (EP1). The modulated EP2
stream is mixed with the unmodulated isotropic field at the transmitting
"holes". The reason for the mixing is to eliminate centripetal acceleration.
The propulsion force will work at the same level on every atom in the ship at
the same time. This means that the ship can make rapid course changes and
accelerations without affecting the crew. When the ship approaches the
speed of light a special device in the ship is activated. The device
compensates for the Doppler effect the ship generate in the microidic plane
by the ship's movement. This Doppler effect causes the mass of an object to
increase as it approaches the speed of light. This is caused when the
material frequency of the object approaches the gravity frequency. If these
frequencies come into phase the mass of the object would be infinitely high.
The compensation device transmits antidoppler waves on EP2 causing the effect
to be eliminated. When the compensation device is active the ship can travel
faster than the speed of light because the ship's mass no longer increases.
The EP2 waves have a speed which is the square of the lightspeed. This permits
the ship to move at close to 90 billion Km/sec at maximum speed. (90000000000
Km/Sec).

Around the ship is a force field loaded with antigravitons (particles which
are oscillating in a phase opposite that of the gravity frequency). This
field prevents the ship from colliding with something. If the ship moves
toward an unknown black hole, the ship is automatically repelled from the
hole because of this antigravity field. This will cause the ship to swing
around the hole and contain at it's normal course. The EP2 velocity allows
the ship to reach the Sirius system in approximate 20 minutes at its maximum
speed. To reach the Pleiades the ship needs approximate 14 days. If you are
going to travel to the Andromeda galaxy, you will need energyplane 3 energies,
which permit intergalactic travel at high velocities.

The speed and acceleration of the ship are controlled by the phase difference
between the signal transmitted from the ship,and the signal received from the
target. When the ship approaches the target star system the ship transmits
counterphase waves with respect to the target. This will cause the ship to
brake. When we arrive in the target solar system, we turn off the
frequency picture causing attraction to the star.

When we find a planet in the system, we can lock the propulsion system to EP2
waves emitted from the planet. This attracts the ship to the planet. As we
approach the planet we emit counterphase waves with respect to the planet.
This will brake the ship enough to enter a planetary orbit. The orbital
altitude is decided after the ship leaves its counterphase state. If the
brake is big enough the ship will enter into the planetary atmosphere.
Here we can control the ground altitude of the ship by using the force of the
antigravity field surrounding the ship. Standard altitude is approximately
5000 meters. Here the ship is typically stabilized and scoutships sent out.

If we take the mothership near the ground, a zero gravity zone will be created
between the ship and the ground. Things on the ground under the ship will
then lose their gravity. Some objects may be attracted to the ship because
they absorb antigravitons from the field around the ship. (According to the
law of gravity, two things which both have negative gravity with respect to a
third thing attract each other). This influence effect will only occur with
small things. Against the big thing (the planet) we still have a repulsive
force. If a small thing approaches the ship from outside the antigravity zone
it will be repelled. The influence effect will only occur with things which
are forced inside the antigravity field as it would be when the antigravity
field reaches down to the ground. The steering of the ship inside the
atmosphere can be done by bending the planetary magnetic field in different
angles and directions around the ship. The ship can move by atttracting and
repelling the planetary magnetic field. In order to bend the magnetic field,
one must use EP2 forces in an ITM process. If the planet doesn't have a
magnetic field, one can bend the gravity itself in desired direction and
steer with that. This will cause the ship to "fall" in the desired direction.

This text has outlined the use of system B for interstellar travel. There are
several other principles which are used for interstellar spacetravel as well.

mj12
30-03-2008, 05:44 PM
STARSHIP ENERGY SYSTEMS.
------------------------

This text discusses an energy system specifically designed as the main
power supply for starships. The system is intended to supply the main
propulsion system of the ship. The main propulsion system is constructed
so that the tube from the energyplane 2 source goes directly to a "crystal
ball" where the propulsion force is generated. The injection amplifiers and
other necessary equipment for the main propulsion system are driven by a
HELENE oscillator.The oscillator is equipped with it's own energyplane 2 source
and modulator. This source is independent of the
source used in the main propulsion system.

The propulsion system modulator consists of a tube approximately 2 meters in
diameter and 6 meters long. The tube contains 1000 injection electrodes.
If a crystal modulator is used, the crystal must also have 1000 electrodes.
The main propulsion modulator can have approximately 1000 channels.
Each channel must provide
+/- 1000000 Volt PEP and have a frequency range from DC to 1 GHz. The power in
each channel amplifier must be 1000 Watts minimum. If a crystal modulator is
used, each channel must have +/- 1000 Volt with a frequency range from DC to 1
GHz. The minimum required power is 10 Watts per channel. Within the modulator
a frequency picture is generated which is at the correct phase with respect to
a target star. This frequency picture is used to generate the attractive force
which draws the ship to the star (this is system B for interstellar travel).

There are also 2 other modulators in the ship. These modulators are used to
create the compensation field allowing the ship to travel faster than the
speed of light. Each of these 2 modulators has it's own generator and
amplification system. There is also a third extra modulator. This modulator
generates the antigravity field surrounding the ship, which is used to repel
meteors and other things encountered during space flight. This modulator can
be further modulated by a subfrequency picture which creates a cloaking
(invisibility) field. The antigravity system is also used for precision
steering when the ship is within a planetary atmosphere.

The ship described here is the cigar-shaped "mother ship" type. In the drawing
is shown only the HELENE oscillator and the main propulsion system modulator.
Normally the main propulsion system circuitry draws approximately 10000000
Watts from the HELENE oscillator. This oscillator is the heart of the ship's
powersupply system. The power generated by this oscillator, as much as it is,
is still negligible when compared to the power generated by the ship's main
propulsion system when the ship is engaged in interstellar travel.

mj12
30-03-2008, 05:45 PM
GLOBE AND SAUCER SHAPED SPACECRAFT.
-----------------------------------

This type of spacecraft functions in a different manner than do cigar-shaped
craft. This type of ship doesn't use energyplane 2 (EP2) waves from a star as
its reference. Instead, it uses a universal EP2 reference which is present
all over the universe and which doesn't have any specific direction. Inside
a globe-shaped spacecraft are 3 reflecting areas placed in the pattern of a 3
dimensional triangle. This material reflects EP2 waves. The 3 reflectors are
used for propulsion and steering. The reflectors reflect the energy which is
directed against them from an EP2 generator. In a saucer-shaped spacecraft
these generators can be placed in a triangular pattern under the spacecraft
or at least inside the undersection of the spacecraft.

In some spacecraft the generators are not directed against a reflecting
material, but use antennae directly inside 3 globes. In the drawing of the
globe-shaped spacecraft only one reflector is shown. Generator B is a
heterodyne generator to generator A. Generator A can change it's phase 360
degrees with respect to generator B. The generator A+B swingproduct will be
at the frequency of a universal EP2 wave. The reflector will beam the A+B
swingproduct in the travel direction. Since we have 3 different A-type
Generators in the spacecraft in a triangular pattern, we can steer the ship in
the proper direction by putting different phases at the generator A antennae.
Then the spacecraft will travel along the resulting vector which are the sum
of the 3 different generator A forces.

In a saucer-shaped spacecraft generator B is the vertical rod which is in the
middle of the ship. The 3 A-type generators are the 3 globes under the ship.
The reason why we use the sum of A+B as propulsion is because through this
approach one can eliminate the centripetal acceleration in the ship. This
will cause the propulsion energy to act on all the atoms in the ship at the
same time. The crew will therefore feel nothing from rapid course changes
and acceleration. The G force during such manoeuvres will be eliminated.

The C Generator will create an antigravity zone around the ship. This will
automatically cause the antigravity stream always be bigger than the gravity
stream around the ship, which prevents the ship from colliding with other
objects in space. This field will also cause automatic compensation allowing
the ship to move faster than the speed of light. As one can see, this ship is
much more simply constructed than the larger cigar-shaped mothership.
This ship must have an advanced navigation device since it does not steer
automatically against a preset energetic target. With this ship there is
a danger that one can loose one's orientation in the galaxy if one isn't
observant and the navigation device should fail. This can't happen with the
cigar-shaped spacecraft when it's propulsion system is active.

The globe-shaped ship can use interstellar propulsion forces all the way down
to the ground. This can have negative influences on persons near the
spacecraft during landing. This because the waves from the spacecraft affects
a person's etherical body (energyplane 2). The waves from the propulsion system
in an intergalactic ship influence a person's astral body (energyplane 3).
The A generators are usually turned off just before landing. The observable
result of this is that the light-emitting aura around the ship disappears.
With the A generators off there's no danger being near the ship during landing.

If the ship should land in a city, the 3 A generators are turned off
approximately 100 meters above the ground. The B and C generators are set
in counterphase with the gravity frequency holding the ship flying. Landing
is accomplished by gradually decreasing the power output from the B+C
generators. The disadvantage of this method is that the ship is without
steering after the three A generators have been turned off. If the wind is
strong in the area the ship can be blown off course. In practice this type
of ship has a system that can bend gravitation with respect to the ship, and
use this for steering all the way down during landing. If the ship has this
capability the A generators can be turned off when the ship is still in space.

A ship that uses the A generators within the atmosphere will create a strongly
illuminated etheric aura around itself. The light is generated because the
valence electrons in the air atoms are alternated in phase with the power field
created by the A generators. This causes the air atoms near the ship to emit
photons. This also causes radio interference, especially in the VHF band.
One can thus observe vertical stripes and other disturbances on a TV set near
such spacecraft. These craft are often strongly illuminated as mentioned
earlier. The lightcloud surrounding the ship can be so strong that it is
difficult to see the ship structure itself trough the cloud. The field
creating this light is often the heterodyne A+B field. This is the main
propulsion field that surrounds the ship. If a car comes near such a ship
the motor may stop because the etheric wavefront from the ship can blow the
electrons out of the wires in the ignition system. If the field is strong
enough the electrons from the accumulator are also prevented from following
the copper wires. This causes the entire electrical system in the car to stop.
You can measure magnetic and electric fields in the vicinity of such a ship.
When coming to Earth such a ship often modulates a subcarrier into its B
generator. This acts as a cloaking device, making the ship invisible to human
eyes. A cloaked ship must use steering frequencies which do not create an
illuminated cloud around it.

If a person comes too close to a ship with the etheric cloud surrounding it,
the person's etheric body can be temporarily damaged. The radiation from that
cloud can cause burns to the person's skin. The electrons can also be blown
out of the person's nerves, causing temporary disability. There have been
cases where the spacepeople haven't taken this seriously enough. This has
caused trouble for some persons who were to close to the ship. Inside the ship
itself this radiation is different. It generates only a soft light coming
from everywhere. Some spacepeople are immune to such radiation and thus do
not understand the Earth human problems with this. When the ship is in space
itself the radiation from the A+B generator is no danger even for Earth humans.
Its the etheric cloud created around the ship while in the atmosphere which can
be the danger. This cloud does not form inside the ship, and thus is no danger
there. The etheric cloud creates new etherical frequencies which can be
dangerous. The A+B field itself has no dangerous effects.

Earth military are often hostile to these ships. This is one reason for
keeping the A generators on all the time: it makes the ship able to
accelerate away from military projectiles and rockets. If the ship can move
along the energy dimension, then such attacks are no problem because the ship
can swap to another natureplane where the projectiles have no effect. Some
spacecraft come from planets which do not have engonic transport capabilities.
It is these ships which are susceptible to military attacks. Some of them
have cloaking devices, but often these devices do not cover the entire
electromagnetic spectrum. This makes it possible for the military to trace
such ships with special radar and scanners even when the cloaking devices are
active. Some ships are also protected by a disintergration field just outside
their hulls. The primary function of this field is to disintegrate small
meteors and other physical objects which might penetrate the antigravity field
during space travel. This field will disintegrate military projectiles and
rockets. Spacecraft which do not have this protective field are vulnerable
to military attacks. On most planets there is no problem with military
technology so many ships do not carry special protective systems against
such attacks.

mj12
30-03-2008, 05:46 PM
THE SPEED OF LIGHT AND INTERSTELLARE TRAVELLING.
---------------------------------------------------

When a polytron moves with high velocity through space, a doppler effect is
created in it's energyplane. This means that the swingproduct of the polytron
is changed with respect to the normal frequencies of that energyplane. If the
doppler effect is big enough the swingproduct of the travelling polytron
approaches the gravity frequency. This causes the polytron to massively
attract gravitons (particles which are oscillating at the gravity frequency).
One can say that the mass of the polytron increases in an uncontrolled way.
At the speed of light the doppler-shifted frequency of the polytron will be
in phase with the gravity frequency.

The solution to this problem is to compensate the doppler shift by outphasing.
Aboard a spaceship this is done by using special materials in the front and
rear of the cigarshaped mothership. The front unit keeps the swingproduct
frequency down as the ship approaches the speed of light. The rear unit raises
the frequency of the swingproduct to prevent time dilation between the
spaceship and the planets. These phase-compensating methods can permit the
ship to exceed the speed of light. This method is called system B for
interstellar travel.

Another method is to bring the entire ship up to a natureplane on energyplane
2. This means to move the ship along the energy dimension far enough that
graviton binding is released. This causes the ship to disappear from the
physical natureplane and appear on a high etheric natureplane. On this
natureplane the maximum speed is the lightspeed multiplied by itself. While
the ship is in this mode it is totally invisible to any humpnap instruments.
This method is widely used. The limitation of the method is that the crew
must be developed enough that their consciousness can work properly within
the person's etherical and astral bodies. If the crew is not developed to that
level they will loose consciousness while the ship is in the high mode. When
the ship returns to low mode the missing gravitons are reinstated and the ship
appears as from nothing seen from humpnap.

When the ship is in high mode it can go right through mountains and other
physical things without causing interference with those things. In this mode
the ship travels through the Earth to reach the underground bases built by the
space people without being detected by Earth military. In high mode the ship
can travel faster than light without difficulty. The propulsion method is the
wave method where the ship is put in phase or counterphase with respect to
waves in the cosmos. The system which switches between high and low mode is
called system C for interstellar travel.

There also exist other methods of interstellar travel. One of these methods
is to manipulate space and time itself so that the ship is moved trough space
without needing to directly travel the normal physical distance. This method
creates shorter paths through space by bending three-dimensional space itself
in a fourth physical dimension. In advanced systems using this technique you
can jump from one spot in space to another without using time between jumps.
The ship can effectively enter a plane which is time-independent. From this
plane a frequency picture which is in harmony with the target area is emitted
from the ship. This causes the ship to teleport instantly to that target
area without loss of time.

With this method it is also possible to travel forward and backward in time.
For time-travelling the frequency picture corresponding to a special historical
event must be emitted in combination with the frequency picture to the target
area. This will cause the ship to teleport to the right space and time. The
timeless plane has it's own time dimension which is independent of all other
time dimensions. Inside the timeless plane you will find that you are floating
in a white fog. It isn't necessary to eat and you do not grow older. Your
thought activity is normal and you can move your body within the space you
occupy. By mental power or technical equipment you can teleport from the
timeless state. This system is called system A for interstellar spacetravel.

This system is used by the Pleiadians. Their method is to accelerate the
spacecraft to near the speed of light. When the right speed is reached, the
ship is frequency-shifted into the timless state and then teleported over a
distance of many lightyears. The new Pleiadian method doesn't require
acceleration to lightspeed before teleporting.

The Zeta Reticulis also use a modified A method. They use three combined rays
of gravity to create an intense gravity field which is strong enough to bend
space in the 4th dimension. They don't access the timeless plane directly but
make a short-cut through space. When they then travel physically a few
thousand Km they are in fact travelling several lightyears. They amplify the
gravity frequency in certain gravity amplifiers which are phase-shifted 180
degrees with respect the normal gravity frequency.

Their method is a cross between methods B and A. To access the gravity
frequency they use the element with periodic number 115. This material emits
a copy of the gravity frequency at energyplane 1. This frequency can be
amplified with ordinary electricity-driven energyplane 1 amplifiers. In a
gravity amplifier output unit the energy is converted from energyplane 1 to
energyplane 2, which then generates the propulsion energy.

If you make a momentary (movement) via the timeless plane, you will not
experience a intermediate condition. The energy limit needed for momentary
travel is lower than the energy limit for entering the timeless space and
remaining there until you teleport. If you use a lower energy rate than this
critical limit you teleport automatically. With this in mind it is possible
to create a special spacecraft which has a so-called annulative (impulsive
teleport) propulsion system. This spacecraft will oscillate in an out of the
transport state periodically in a serial of hyper leaps. The distance you move
in the transport state depends of the strength of the initial high energy force
injected into the propulsion field just before the hyper leap. The ship only
needs approximate 0.5 picosecond to jump. The crew will therefore not register
this jump at all. The ship can, for example, move 1000000 Km in each jump
100000000 times a second.

The propulsion mechanism could be a condenser which is charged with the right
high energy power. This condenser is discharged by a "thyristor" mechanism
which is triggered by a frequency of 100 MHz. The energy of each discharge is
transfered to a transporter converter which initiates the ship's jump using a
power field that is in some ways similar to the field in a black hole. When
the jump distance is set to 1000000 Km and the trigger frequency is 100 MHz,
the speed of the ship is just above the speed of light squared. The actual
physical speed causing the kinetic energy can be much lower. Seen from the
physical side the ship can perhaps move only at 100 miles/hour or stands still.
The propulsion speed is therefore artificial and has nothing to do with normal
natural physical laws of movement.

There is no limit how fast a ship can move using this method. By increasing
the jump setting and the trigger frequency its possible to travel intergalactic
distances in short times. You can also undertake inter-universal
spacetravel. In order to leave our universe and travel to another universe,
the energy injected into the transport field must be greater than the
escape-energy from our universe. The escape energy is 15 Zontal-S for our
universe. In this kind of ship both the jump setting and the trigger frequency
can be varied. The trigger frequency must be over 100 KHz. Over this frequency
level the crew will feel nothing from the propulsion.

An advanced ship of this type is able to scan the target point just before
jumping. This happens in the picosecond-time the ship is in the timeless
space. From this space it is easy to observe every point in the universe.
If there is an object at the target point, an extra amount of energy is
injected into the field, causing the ship to jump a little longer to avoid
the object.

A system-A propelled ship will have the kinetic energy it had when it began
it's travel. Since all planets are moving with respect to each other, the
ship's kinetic energy with respect to the target planet may be much larger
then the kinetic energy with respect to the planet from which the ship began.
Before landing the ship must balance this energy. This braking can be done
by using a system B propulsion system, braking the ship by antigravity waves.
If one doesn't do this the ship may collide after the system A propulsion
is turned off. This will occur even if the ship lands using system A.

mj12
30-03-2008, 05:47 PM
The ship can be standing still by means of the A system by jumping to the same
point in every jump. This makes it possible to land with the kinetic energy
potential. Another method is to balance the kinetic potential by direct ITM
after a system A landing. If the system is turned off without this balancing
the kinetic energy can be discharged all at one time causing the ship to
collide if this energy vector is pointing down. If this vector is pointing up
the ship will take of immediately. If you travel to a planet in another galaxy
the kinetic energy potential will be so great that you must use direct ITM to
balance this energy.

In another method of system A travelling you don't need a ship at all.
By this method you use a hand-held transporter at the size of a small walkie
talkie. By pressing a button you can with your inner eye (clairvoyance) get a
picture of the target area. By pressing this button the box injects energies
into your aura that enables and amplifies your natural clairvoyance. In the
clairvoyance mode you can search out new places. When you have found a
suitable target you keep the picture of this place clear inside your head
while you press another button. This button registers the place you had
in your head in the box memory. The box then calculates the coordinates for
teleporting to this place. When the box has done this an indicator on the box
tells you that the system is ready. By pressing a third button you are moved
momentarily to the timeless space. Then the box transmits the frequency
picture which harmonizes with the target location. You are then rematerialized
in the target location immediately. This happens so fast that you will not
feel the moment when you were in the timeless space. The target can be anywhere
in the universe, from a neighbor's house to a planet in another galaxy. The
time the system uses to dematerialize and materialize is the same independent
of the transport distance. Right after arrival at the planet in the other
galaxy your kinetic energy potential to that planet is balanced automatically
by ITM. In the box you can store coordinates to many places.

It is possible through meditation and other esoteric training methods to
develop the power to do system A jumps without any technical devices. In this
case the ability is programmed into the structure of your higher bodies.
The Pleiadians have a ship they call variation 5. The ship uses this method
to jump via the timeless space to another target in one big jump. The big
Pleiadian mother ship also uses this method, which enable them to jump over
distances of thousands of lightyears in a single jump. The timeless space is
common for the entire superuniverse. Its therefore possible to jump from one
cosmos to another. The energysource must in this case be beklimatization
energy, by modulating the zontalray by unatomic vibrations inside a special
crystal.

mj12
30-03-2008, 05:49 PM
CHANNELLING CRYSTALS.
---------------------

Channelling crystals have the simplest structure of the natural multistructural
energy crystals. These crystals have an energy string structure that goes from
one energyplane to another. The structure inside such crystals is empirical
and similar on each level. Thus no special advanced technology is incorporated
in the crystal. On Earth these crystals are used by fortune-tellers to look
into the future. To do this the crystal must have a common structure along 3
energyplanes. A natural 3-plane crystal is very rare and there are only a few
available on Earth. The crystal conducts visual information between the
astral and mental level and the physical level. The crystal is bidirectional
so its possible to put information from the physical plane onto energyplane 3.
With a 3-plane crystal it's possible to access some of the communication nets
created by the space people.

mj12
30-03-2008, 05:50 PM
MULTISPECTRAL COMMUNICATION:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

I will hereby attract your attention on a research field, who are very
little known,but will have interest fore those of you who are interested
in radio communications. The research on this field is mostly carried out
in civilisations on other planets, only very little on earth. This field is
telecommunication in other spectrum than the electromagnetic spectrum.
The theoretical platform is based on a picture where space is given five
dimensions. Three for space, one for time and one fore energy. That we are
interested in here is the fifth dimension (the energy dimension). Along
this dimension it's defined several energy plains. A energy plain is a
energy system, where the energy is defined after certain physical
parameters. The law on the energy keeping (the second main sentence in the
thermal dynamic) such it's known to Earth today and the theory on
relativity, will only be valid within a energiplain (example ours) and not
between them. This means a limited space along the fifth dimension axis. On
the energy plain above us the energy is described after other physical
rules. Within a energy plain it can seems to look like a closed
system. According to special cosmic rules it's interaction between the
energiplain. According to a cosmic rule, the static nature laws in a
enwrapping, is made by dynamic reactions in the energiplain above. According
to special conditions a two way communications between the energiplains
are possible. The main construction of the hyperspace (the space with all
dimensions) is carried out by the controlling intelligence in cosmos. The
living creatures in space are allowed to construct new structures within
this system limited by their intelligence and spiritual development. In
our energiplain the maximum wavespeed usually is the speed of light. In
the above energy plane the maximum speed is the lightspeed multiplied with
itself. The energiplain above this again is that speed multiplied with
itself. From our energiplain the speed on energiplain three is the
lightspeed multiplied with itself fore times. It's obvious that use of
higher spectrum for telecommunication will release a huge number of more
channels for wireless communications. Waves on
energiplain 3 are penetrable according to ordinary physical matter. This
means that it will be possible to talk to the other end of the globe by
waves who will travel right through the planet. This will again eliminate
the need for telecommunication satellites.
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DESCRIPTIONS OF A TRANSMITTER FOR WAVES ON ENERGIPLAIN 2.


The unit
are using a ordinary radio transmitter.The unit has form of an antenna
that will transform ordinary electromagnetic waves to high energy waves
on the spectrum above us. The system consist of a copper cylinder. Within
this cylinder are there a system of strong permanent magnets. This magnets
are formed as discs with a hole in their centre. The north pole is on one
side of the discs and the south pole on the other side. The magnets are
arranged such as the northpole on one disc are pointed against the
northpole of another and vica verca. This means that the magnets will
disattrack each other along the entire system. Through the centre holes of
the magnets is there putted a insulated none magnetic wire (ordinary
copper wire). This wire is soldered to a disc of copper at it's
centre. This disc are again soldered to the coppertube itself in such a
way that no electromagnetic leak is made between the copper tube and the
copper disc. Each end of the tube are tighten with such a copper disk. The
coaxs comes in to the system through the bottom disc. The centre of the
coax is soldered to the centre leader who are penetrating the magnets, and
outer part of the coax are soldered to the coppercylinder itself. The
magnet system are placed i a plastic tube. Between the magnets it's small
plastic pieces whits holds the magnets in a constant distance of approximate 2 cm
to each other. Between the plastic tube and the copper tube, it should be
at least 0.5 cm with air or vacuum. The entire length of the system is
given of the frequency one will use. It's very important that the system
is resonant. You must have in mind that it isn't a conventional energy
transaction in the tube. It's the electromagnetic tension field, not the
power that stand for the interdimensional interaction. As higher tension
between the systems centre leader and the inside of the copper tube, these
better will the system functionate. About 1000 Volt PEP are good. The tube
must stand vertical to functionate. The system uses the natural magnetic
field that surrounds the planet as "earth plain". Therefore must the
system when used near the Earth South pole have the south pole magnet in
the bottom end pointing against the Earth. For me it's opposite as i
live near the magnetic north pole. The system will work better as closer
you are coming to one of the magnetic poles. It's recommended that this
system are not used fore frequencies below 100 MHz. At 144 MHz you will
get a wavelength of 625000 Km. In 3 milliseconds this wave will reach the
planet Mars. This system are useful for communications within the solar
system. Fore interstellar communications you must use waves in a spectrum
that belong to energiplain 3. A such system can use the earth gravitation
field as "earth plain". Since there are no telecommunication regulations
on earth on use of other spectrum, you are free to use any frequency you
like. If your experiments interferes with interplanetary
communications, the spacepeople will come to you direct and tell you about
it. I think that it will not be such danger with this low frequencies
according to that spectrum. The spacepeople communication can come more in
reach if you go above 100 million MHz in this spectrum. This information
comes from the spacepeople civilisation by thought transmission it's then
translated into two lingual where English is the second one.

mj12
30-03-2008, 05:53 PM
INTERSTELLAR TELEMETRY TRANSMITTER.
-----------------------------------

The purpose of this equipment is to send signals to other civilizations in
space. The device described here sends numeric codes intended to attend
interest at a interstellar spacefaring people. The purpose of the device is to
attract alien spacecrafts to Earth. When a spacecraft reach Earth the
communications to the crew can be done by other methods. The device is builded
around a pyramidical shape that transmits signals on energyplain 3. The
wavelength is proportional with the double of the pyramid height. The
modulator consist of a organic cylinder who stays vertically inside the
pyramid. Around this cylinder there are a coil consisting of copper wire. The
numeric codes are sent into the coil who generate magnetic impulses containing
the numeric information. The codes are modulated impulses. The number of
pulses indicates the number sent. The carrier frequency can be 10 MHz. When
this frequency are turned on and off the numeric pulses are generated. The
decimals are sent by increasing the "baudrate" by 10 when they are sent. The
code who should be sent are burned into a EPROM. The device sends the signals
on energyplain 3. That means the speed of light multiplied by itself 4 times.
At this speed the signal can reach the Andromeda Galaxy in milliseconds. The
device should be placed in nonpopulated arias. The energysource who drive the
modulator can be generated by solar cells.


mj12
30-03-2008, 05:54 PM
TRANSCEIVER FOR COMMUNICATION WITH THE SPACEPEOPLE BASED ON Y03.
-----------------------------------------------------------------

The most favourable is that the transmitter is a universal wave transmitter.
The outputpower of the transmitter can be small. The purpose of the
transmitter is to influence the aura belonging to the operator. The operators
aura shall generate a highengonical wave who are modulated by the
electromagnetic field from the transmitter. The modulation must be FM. The
receiver is based on aural dielectricum interaction. The oscillator in the
receiver is connected to a element in the antenna in such a way that
dielectricum changes around the antenna influence the frequency of the
oscillator. The oscillator signal is digitized and detected in a
"sluggishness" detector who are a softwareprogram in a microprocessor system.
When the highengonical waves from outer space hits the aura of the operator,
it's meaning that the FM modulation on the incoming signal inflects the aura
in such a way that the aura cause dielectricum changes harmonized with the FM
modulation within it's field. By use of the Y03 concept it's possible to have
a individual communication despite several other similar transceivers uses the
same frequency. The frequency adjustment of the transceiver has it's only
purpose in adapting the transceiver to the personal frequency of the aura of
the person. This personal vibration itself acts as the communication channel.
This means that 2 persons with the same transceivers but with different
personally frequencies can't communicate with each other. The main task of the
this transceiver type is to communicate with the spacepeople. The equipment
of the spacepeople has the ability to send and receive on many engonically
frequencies included the aria who are occupied by the personally vibrations of
most of the Earth humans. The spacepeople then tune their equipment to exactly
the right frequencies within the correct energyplain. If a person generates
frequencies who are outside the common area for personal vibrations, this is
registered by the spacepeople immediately. It's usually persons with
esoterical abilities like psychokinesis and so on who can do this. It's not
sure that the answer from the spacepeople would be received by the receiver of
the transceiver. The answer can be in form of telepathy who are received
directly by the person. The transmitter influence the etheric aura who is at
energyplain 2. This again influences the higher astral aura who are at
energyplain 3. From this plain the aura emits waves who are modulated by the
transmitter. This waves travels at the lightspeed multiplied with itself 4
times. The range are approximate 50 to 100 light-years dependent of the aura
of the person. If identical twins have 2 transceiver they can communicate
direct with each other by use of this transceivers if their aura is nearly
identical.


mj12
30-03-2008, 05:55 PM
RECEPTION OF COMMUNICATIONSIGNALS FROM ENERGYPLAIN 2 AND 3.
------------------------------------------------------------

In the first solution we use a pyramid. The pyramid acts as a resonant
chamber and antenna for signals on higher energyplains. The pyramid collects
the waves on energyplain 2 and 3 into a point (the kings chamber). This is
similar to the focus point at a parabolic antenna. At the focuspoint in the
pyramid we puts up a coil. The focuspoint resident within the centre of the
coil. To the coil we connects a sensitive receiver. We can't receive the
highengonical waves directly. Therefore 2 of the walls in the pyramid is
covered with metal. Between this metalwalls we set up a voltage on 2000000
Volt DC. This creates a electrical field inside the pyramid. A static
electrical field has it's origin at energyplain 2. The waves the pyramid
receive will be concentrated at the focus point. This means that we will get a
interaction with the electrical field around this focus point causing
field variations who follows the amplitudevariations of the incoming
highengonical signals. Variation inside a electric field causes formation of
electromagnetic waves. This waves are picked up by the coil who sends the
waves to an ordinary radio receiver. It's possible to make the coil of
permanent magnetic material instead of using the highvoltage field. This
method will receive other waves than the electric field method. It's also
possible to create the magnetic felt by sending constant current trough the
coil via a drossel. The received signal is taken out by a condenser on the
right side of the drossel. If one shall receive energyplain 3 signals it's
recommended to use the electric field method. The coil then must be wounded
around a clear quartz rock crystal who stands vertically at the centre of the
pyramid. The focuspoint is inside the crystal. The crystal transforms the
waves received on energyplain 3 to energyplain 2. Then the energyplain 2
signals influence the electrical field who makes the electromagnetic waves
picked up by the coil. The waves on energyplain 2 travels at the lightspeed
multiplied with itself. The waves on this plain can be used to communicates
to other planets in the solar system without practical delay. To communicate
to the Sirius-system the signal will need approximately 20 minutes one way.
Waves on energyplain 3 travels with the lightspeed multiplied with itself 4
times. On this plain we can communicates with all solar systems in the
milky way without practical delay. To communicate to the Andromeda galaxy the
delay will only be a few microseconds. On this plain it's possible to
communicate to other nearby galaxies without practically delay.


mj12
30-03-2008, 07:20 PM
SECRET US ET COMMUNICATIONS BASE..

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maliq7776
01-04-2008, 04:50 AM
amerika tipu

mj12
01-04-2008, 11:02 PM
THIS ARE THE TRUTH...READ IT...

PART 1

First let me introduce myself. My name is Request Anonymous. I am a retired employee of the U.S. Government. I won't go into any great details about my past, but I was involved in a special program.

As for Roswell, it occurred, but not like the story books tell. There were two crash sites. One southwest of Corona, New Mexico and the second site at Pelona Peak, south of Datil, New Mexico.

The crash involved two extraterrestrial aircraft. The Corona site was found a day later by an archaeology team. This team reported the crash site to the Lincoln County Sheriff's department. A deputy arrived the next day and summoned a state police officer. One live entity [EBE] was found hiding behind a rock. The entity was given water but declined food. The entity was later transferred to Los Alamos.

The information eventually went to Roswell Army Air Field. The site was examined and all evidence was removed. The bodies were taken to Los Alamos National Laboratory because they had a freezing system that allowed the bodies to remain frozen for research. The craft was taken to Roswell and then onto Wright Field, Ohio.

The second site was not discovered until August 1949 by two ranchers. They reported their findings several days later to the sheriff of Catron County, New Mexico. Because of the remote location, it took the sheriff several days to make his way to the crash site. Once at the site, the sheriff took photographs and then drove back to Datil.

Sandia Army Base, Albuquerque, New Mexico was then notified. A recovery team from Sandia took custody of all evidence, including six bodies. The bodies were taken to Sandia Base, but later transferred to Los Alamos.

The live entity established communications with us and provided us with a location of his home planet. The entity remained alive until 1952, when he died. But before his death, he provided us with a full explanation of the items found inside the two crafts. One item was a communication device. The entity was allowed to make contact with his planet.

Somehow, I never knew this information, but a meeting date was set for April 1964 near Alamogordo New Mexico. The Aliens landed and retrieved the bodies of their dead comrades. Information was exchanged. Communication was in English. The aliens had a translation device.

In 1965, we had an exchange program with the aliens. We carefully selected 12 military personnel; ten men and two women. They were trained, vetted and carefully removed from the military system. The 12 were skilled in various specialities.

Near the northern part of the Nevada Test Site, the aliens landed and the 12 Americans left. One entity was left on Earth. The original plan was for our 12 people to stay 10 years and then return to Earth.

But something went wrong. The 12 remained until 1978, when they were returned to the same location in Nevada. Seven men and one woman returned. Two died on the alien's home planet. Four others decided to remain, according to the returnees. Of the eight that returned, all have died. The last survivor died in 2002.

[Clarification (BR/ Victor Martinez): the paragraph above contains a typo in the original. Twelve team members went, and eight returned – two having died on Serpo and two having chosen to remain; these two were not ordered to return.]

The returnees were isolated from 1978 until 1984 at various military installations. The Air Force Office of Special Investigation (AFOSI) was responsible for their security and safety. AFOSI also conducted debriefing sessions with the returnees.

I have never seen or read anything about the exchange program. I once heard a little bit of information from Linda Howe, but she didn't have much information.

I've monitored your e-mails for about six months. I've read e-mails from you and others. But I've never seen nor heard the truth about the real Roswell incident or the exchange program.

I'd like to hear what others say about this.

Comment 1 (by Gene Loscowski):

Who is this person? Most of the information is absolutely correct.

However, I never heard of any females going. To the best of my knowledge, we had 12 men, all military men. Eight USAF, two Army and two Navy guys. I think the females are a red herring. But maybe I just didn't have the clearance for that.

They left and was gone 20 years, as I was told. When they came back they were put in quarantine for 365 days at the complex. Only eight came back, that much is right. Two died a few years into their assignment on the Visitor's planet. Two others decided to remain and maybe are still alive today. Since their return, all have died. The last being in 2003 in a VA hospital.

As for the Roswell incident. Whomever sent the e-mail is correct.

The complete debriefing is contained in: "PROJECT SERPO," Final Report-80HQD893-020, classified TS, Codeword. Ask [Rick] Doty about that report because I think it is an OSI report. Paul [McGovern] should be commenting on this since he was involved in the debriefing.

[Clarification by Victor Martinez, 1 December: Ths project classification was provided by Paul McGovern, not Gene Loscowski. Apologies for the error.]

mj12
01-04-2008, 11:02 PM
Comment 2 (by Paul McGovern):

Interesting but not totally correct [commenting on Anonymous's original e-mail]. As for the Roswell incident: absolutely right. Few people have ever gotten it entirely correct. Two crash sites, not one. As for the exchange program: Unauthorized Release of Classified Information, as I see it. But maybe someone currently within our government wants it out. No females were sent. Twelve men, all military. 8 USAF, 2 U.S. Army and 2 U.S. Navy. Two were doctors; three were scientists; two were language specialists; two were security personnel; two were pilots and one was the leader (Colonel-AF).

All were sheep-dipped and completely erased from the military roles. I'm not totally sure of the training period, but I think it was about six months. They were able to transmit messages to Earth by means of a communication system set up prior to their trip.

One doctor and one of the security personnel died three years into their visit. The doctor died of pneumonia and the security guy died of an injury. The exchange team had to endure extreme hardship adjusting to the environment of the visitor's planet.

The heat was extreme and took many years to adjust. The food was something of a problem because the human system had problems digesting it. The team took enough food for two years and rationed it another eight months, but eventually had to eat the visitor's [Eben's: alien's name] food. This caused all team members gastrointestinal problems. Eventually, they adjusted. The visitors tried to create different foods but few worked.

The team was never isolated or restricted by the visitors. They could travel as they wished and see whatever they wanted to see. After about six years, the team moved to a northern portion of the visitor's planet, where the temperature was cooler and which contained ample vegatation.

The visitors built a small community for the team. The only major problem was time. Time was different on the visitor's planet. I don't think anyone ever figured it out. The visitors had no clocks. They didn't judge or account for time as we did. The visitors found our attempts to account for time strange.

The visitors were extremely disciplined in their daily lives. Every visitor worked on a schedule, which was not by a clock, but by the movement of their sun. Each little community had a large tower, which filtered the sun through. When the sun was at a particular point on the tower, it meant the visitors had to do a particular thing.

There was never complete darkness on the visitors planet. It got dim but not dark. The visitors had rest periods, but not like our sleep periods. The visitors rested three times during their sun days. Our team determined the entire work period was approx. 43 hours. They had three rest periods within that 43 hours. That is still about 14 hours straight,... couldn't get too many of our workers to do that! The visitors also didn't have months or years.

They did have life periods, as our team coined it. It was impossible to judge the visitor's age, although our team did find graves. The population of the visitor's planet was about 650,000. There were small communities throughout the planet. There were underground rivers, which fed into open valleys. There was industry.

But all of the food was grown, either in fields or in large buildings. They did have animals. Different types. Strange large beasts, they used for work and other things, but no meat was eaten. The geological make up of the planet was so much different than ours. Few mountains, no oceans, some trees or something similar to trees and no other civilization except the Ebens.

Everyone looked the same initially to our team. But after some time, the team members learned to identify different Ebens by their voices. Although the Ebens couldn't speak English, they did make noises that our team members were able to translate into English. After five years, we had their language completely translated into English. The complete debriefing accounts for about three thousand pages.

Comment 3 (by "Anonymous II"):

I would prefer you keep my name private.

But here is my evaluation of the information from "Anonymous."

1. As for the Roswell incident [described by Anonymous in his e-mail]: This was the story I read in the historical document called the "Red Book." Almost exactly to the word. Although there were more details about the crash sites and what was recovered.

2. As for the Exchange Program: I read about it but thought there were 12 men; I don't recall any women. But that was about all I knew. We did have a special unit that handled their debriefing but USAF positive intelligence was also involved. I was never involved in that program, but I knew other agents who were.

3. I'd like to contact this source. I have about a million questions to ask!

I heard Linda Howe speak about the exchange program some years ago. I always wondered where she got her information.

mj12
01-04-2008, 11:06 PM
I'll Post All The Details Daily....1 Post Per Day....

mj12
01-04-2008, 11:06 PM
Seek The Truth...

mj12
01-04-2008, 11:07 PM
The Truth Is Out There....

mj12
01-04-2008, 11:08 PM
All The Tech Is Here.....

mj12
01-04-2008, 11:09 PM
The Truth Is With Those Who Wanna Reveals The Truth....

profesor
01-04-2008, 11:19 PM
Pergh.. laju thread nih.. Semangat plak bro mj12 menunjukkan kehebatan US.. :-? tp byk2 gambo tu kat bumi jer.. mana nyer gambar bukti kapal angkasa ke ape ker yg dah landing kat bintang?? haiyo.. :(scam

Microwave
01-04-2008, 11:26 PM
Pergh.. laju thread nih.. Semangat plak bro mj12 menunjukkan kehebatan US.. :-? tp byk2 gambo tu kat bumi jer.. mana nyer gambar bukti kapal angkasa ke ape ker yg dah landing kat bintang?? haiyo.. :(scam

marahnya Prof.. sabo Prof.. kelako tgk sepanduk Prof angkat tu..:eek: .. xpe.. kita sama² fikirkan k..

profesor
01-04-2008, 11:30 PM
Hehe.. :)) saje jer nak tngok gambar astroman lepak kat bintang.. :p amcm kat sane ek? kalo takat tunjuk kapal terbang dlm gambo tu kat dlm game pun ada byk.. :eek: :(scam :)cgrock

mj12
02-04-2008, 12:32 AM
Pergh.. laju thread nih.. Semangat plak bro mj12 menunjukkan kehebatan US.. :-? tp byk2 gambo tu kat bumi jer.. mana nyer gambar bukti kapal angkasa ke ape ker yg dah landing kat bintang?? haiyo.. :(scam

releks prof.....prof kena sabar lah...kat first post dah letak dah...releks..:D

wheriz
02-04-2008, 10:30 AM
US memang hebat. PINPOINT ACCURACY lagi. Osama Laden pun tak leh tangkap lagi.. ~X( .kalau boleh pun at least dah berapa tahun dah cari..:-?

Gila Komik
02-04-2008, 03:29 PM
ntah ape ape

mj12
03-04-2008, 03:46 AM
US memang hebat. PINPOINT ACCURACY lagi. Osama Laden pun tak leh tangkap lagi.. ~X( .kalau boleh pun at least dah berapa tahun dah cari..:-?

bukan x leh tangkap...kalau nak tangkap dah lama leh tangkap..cuma kalau tangkap sekarang kena "create" barulah hero org Islam:)

p/s:amacam dah try dah bawak kereta pakai steering je...?..dah aksi kan macam mr bean dah?..jalan x keta?:D

mj12
03-04-2008, 03:49 AM
PART 2

Paul is not correct. There were two females, one being a doctor and the other being a linguist.

There was a period of darkness, but not total darkness. The Eben planet is located within a solar system of the Zeta Recticular Star System [two 5th-magnitude yellow double stars, similar to our Sun located near the Large Magellanic Cloud]. The planet had two suns but their angles were small and allowed some darkness on the planet depending on one's location.

The planet was tilted which allowed the northern part of the planet to be cooler. The planet was a little less than Earth's size. The atmosphere was similar to Earths and contained the elements of CHON [Carbon, Hydrogen, Oxygen, Nitrogen]. Zeta Recticular is approximately 37 light years from us. It took our team, in an Eben craft, nine months to travel the distance.

During the trip, each of our team members were frequently dizzy, disoriented and suffered headaches. The craft did not go through any weightlessness during the trip. The craft was very large and allowed the team to exercise.

Once the team arrived on the Eben planet, it took them several months to adjust to the atmosphere. During the adjustment period, they suffered headaches, dizziness and disorientation.

The bright suns of the Eben planet also presented problems. Although they had sunglasses, they still suffered from the bright sunlight and the danger of sun exposure. The radiation levels of the planet was a little higher than that of Earth. They were careful to cover their bodies at all times.

The Ebens had no forms of refrigeration, except in industry. The temperature of the planet, at the center portion, stayed between 94° and 115.° They did have clouds and rain, but not frequently. At the northern hemisphere of the planet, the temperature dropped to between 55 and 80 degrees. This was too cool for the Ebens, or at least most. Our team did find Ebens living in the north, but in very small villages.

Our team eventually relocated to the north in order to stay cool. The ground transportation used by our team was similar to a helicopter. The power system was a sealed energy device that provided electrical power and lift for the craft. It was very easy to fly and our pilots learned the system within days. The Ebens did have vehicles, which floated above the ground and did not have any tires or wheels.

There were leaders, but no real form of government. There was virtually no crime seen by the team. They had an army, which also acted as the police force. But no guns or weapons of any type were seen by our team. There were regular meetings within each small community. There was one large community, which acted as the central point of the civilization. All the industry was at this one large community. There was no money.

Every Eben was issued what they needed. No stores, malls or shopping locations. There were central distribution centers where Ebens went to obtain items of needs. All Ebens worked in some capacity. Children were kept very isolated. The only trouble our team members got into was when they attempted to photograph Eben children.

The Army politely escorted them away and cautioned them not to do it again.

wheriz
03-04-2008, 08:47 AM
bukan x leh tangkap...kalau nak tangkap dah lama leh tangkap..cuma kalau tangkap sekarang kena "create" barulah hero org Islam:)

p/s:amacam dah try dah bawak kereta pakai steering je...?..dah aksi kan macam mr bean dah?..jalan x keta?:D

oh ye ke .. pandainyaa..:D